“鸿雁双飞”大探讨！！！

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-12 18:55:27

著名古局“鸿雁双飞”（亦名“鸿雁惊寒”）古今多认为和棋，其胜和结论一直以来莫衷一是！最近即将问世的《江湖第一排局鸿雁双飞》的作者亦认为是和局。但我的好友会心斋主张云川等却认为似为黑胜！。。。究竟此局是胜是和呢？请看本帖： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8799699939990799656463999972410532999999309999999920992537489999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第105局鸿雁双飞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]6333323364343363873763656947657534647535373525356444485839382026476526464434354541514666514166697262696205046252041452561424564641513040242345352333467634443536333276783839363739493738323178796547797144417141476541440725[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_1]344435362333464538394535394936373332373832313515444615196547191146411141476541450725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_37_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2]4676383936373949373833327679654779595161404144455979454479704445703032224131[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2] 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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_68]655534442535444820243949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_68] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_69]342425352429202472622434625235363738363752513738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_69] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_70]69876555341425351419202907295559[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_70] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]0[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_comment25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25] [DhtmlXQ_comment48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment48] [DhtmlXQ_comment53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53] [DhtmlXQ_comment55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [/DhtmlXQ]

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-12 19:02:32

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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10]242349412333304034444050445458485453505153734140735351415343413143534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13][DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38][DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [/DhtmlXQ]

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-12 19:42:49

以上是《百局象棋谱（精编版）》的黑胜着法。以下再看《象棋残局生死棋型》中的主要着法： [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8799699939990799656463999972410532999999309999999920992537489999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第105局鸿雁双飞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]633332336434336387376365694765753464753537352535644448583938202647652646443435454151466672626662514162720504727838395848041478760725764641513040142446263444453525472646472546262547[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1]344435362333464538394535394936373332373832313515444615196547191146411141476541450725[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2]4676383936373949373833327679654779595161404144455979454479704445703032224131[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_3]464923334546333246363242494534354549514140504252584838484941[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_3] 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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23][DhtmlXQ_move_17_24_9]66697262696205046252041452561424564641513040242345352333467634443536333276783839363739493738323178796547797144417141476541440725[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_24_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_10]242349412333304034444050445458485453505153734140735351415343413143534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_27_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_25_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_71]727604147646415130401424464938394959516159796151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_71][DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28] [DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_71_34_73]467634317636313445356547367634323536243436263839262739492728343376163242283842461619333219114645111332311311454111144143144447654414434614196547191146411141476541430725[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_34_73][DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35][DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39][DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_72]3837[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_29_72][DhtmlXQ_comment45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45][DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23] [/DhtmlXQ]

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2014-5-12 20:05:35

[/quote] 回2楼,红这样应呢. 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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10]242349412333304034444050445458485453505153734140735351415343413143534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_71]04147279142479494151584824234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_71] [/DhtmlXQ]

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-12 20:17:41

特别值得一提的是，即使按《江湖第一排局鸿雁双飞》的着法，也为黑胜！！！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479958992599999999999999999999999999409999999917993739999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-3-21 20:34:23[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-3-21 20:34:23[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]书中一处着法及结论错误[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4765394925071715072949392947373858573848476915176987404187693949698749598769596965871787[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1]6587151687654939585937276547271747291636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_1] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]23[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_class]江湖残局[/DhtmlXQ_class] [DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_hits]1[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]7827730[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]ymjily[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]ymjily[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]书中136页，附录6 图一，结论和棋。其实着法错误，结论也错了。可以黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]等一步。后面底卒平到6路时再等一样。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_5]？怎么样取胜？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_2]072916065958060858571718[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_13_2] [/DhtmlXQ]

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-12 20:42:41

回2楼,红这样应呢.[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8799699939990799656463999972410532999999309999999920992537489999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第105局鸿雁双飞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]63333233643433638737636569476575346475353735253564444858393820264765264644343545415146665141666838374546726268620504627265877277[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1]344435362333464538394535394936373332373832313515444615196547191146411141476541450725[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2]4676383936373949373833327679654779595161404144455979454479704445703032224131[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_3]464923334546333246363242494534354549514140504252584838484941[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_3] 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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10]242349412333304034444050445458485453505153734140735351415343413143534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_71]04147279142479494151584824234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_71] [/DhtmlXQ]

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2014-5-12 21:05:40

[/quote] 砲8进5这路棋走过,红相9进7应.

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-5-12 21:07:53

回复3楼，黑胜着法不对。如下

第12回合，红走，可按注解走兵四平五（3楼注“？”认为劣）
至26回合，红走，应炮五退五打掉黑卒，和棋。所以黑胜不成立。

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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment51]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-13 08:26:54

大征西发表于 2014-5-12 20:17
特别值得一提的是，即使按《江湖第一排局鸿雁双飞》的着法，也为黑胜！！！

一个附录的结论并不一定能推翻这一局的结论，这本书的排版体系阅读很困难，所以也不知道这个附录8可以影响哪些变化。

本局各大诠注本的黑胜着法都有问题，和局结论应该可以成立。

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 12:43:18

一个附录的结论并不一定能推翻这一局的结论，这本书的排版体系阅读很困难，所以也不知道这个附录8可以影 ...[/quote] 余兄，您看过《象棋残局生死棋型》（张云川编著！）吗？

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 12:53:01

回复3楼，黑胜着法不对。如下第12回合，红走，可按注解走兵四平五（3楼注“？”认为劣） [/quote] 黑有取胜手段，按注解走兵四平五？实误也！黑可胜！！！

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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41] [DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_71]727604147646415130401424464938394959516159796151[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_71_34_73]467634317636313445356547367634323536243436263839262739492728343376163242283842461619333219114645111332311311454111144143144447654414434614196547191146411141476541430725[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_34_73] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_72]3837[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_72] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_9]66697262696205046252041452561424564641513040242345352333467634443536333276783839363739493738323178796547797144417141476541440725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10]4151584824234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_74]43534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_74] [DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_11]33323141[/DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_75]5848545350515373414073535141534341314348[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_75][DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42][DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46][DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52] [/DhtmlXQ]

zhaodi · 发表于 2014-5-13 13:17:09

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 12:53
黑有取胜手段，按注解走兵四平五？实误也！黑可胜！！！

红续走帅五平四，怎样胜？
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-13 14:09:47

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 12:53
黑有取胜手段，按注解走兵四平五？实误也！黑可胜！！！

兵四平五和兵二平三都可以和
兵二平三变的第17回合红相九进七是败着，应兵八平七。

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 15:59:35

红续走帅五平四，怎样胜？[/quote] 黑这样，妙胜！

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[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17] [DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41] [DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38] [DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_71]727604147646415130401424464938394959516159796151[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_28_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29] [DhtmlXQ_move_71_34_73]467634317636313445356547367634323536243436263839262739492728343376163242283842461619333219114645111332311311454111144143144447654414434614196547191146411141476541430725[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_34_73] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39] [DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_72]3837[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_29_72] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_9]66697262696205046252041452561424564641513040242345352333467634443536333276783839363739493738323178796547797144417141476541440725[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_24_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10]4151584824234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13]383945357262686205045848041435361424363724233738[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_25_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_74]43534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_74] [DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_11]33323141[/DhtmlXQ_move_75_51_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_75]5848545350515373414073535141534341314348[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42] [DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46] [DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_53_76]658736464737403033233828876530506587505925075949233349393323463637472838475736468765465657584151435339192333191858593848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_53_76][DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_55_77][DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_59_78]473740303323382843495646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_59_78][DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64][DhtmlXQ_comment70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment70][DhtmlXQ_comment80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80] [/DhtmlXQ]

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 16:35:58

砲8进5这路棋走过,红相9进7应.[/quote] 兼回9楼！

和不了，也是黑胜！有趣的是，此变走下去，最后恰好可形成9楼所提到的附录8！结果是，红棋将被吃得一子不剩也！！！ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]8799699939990799656463999972410532999999309999999920992537489999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2007-10-26 9:30:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]第105局鸿雁双飞[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]63333233643433638737636569476575346475353735253564444858393820264765264644343545415146665141666838374546726268620504627265877277072558480414774714244741[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1]344435362333464538394535394936373332373832313515444615196547191146411141476541450725[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2]4676383936373949373833327679654779595161404144455979454479704445703032224131[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_40_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_3]464923334546333246363242494534354549514140504252584838484941[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_36_3] 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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_52] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_34] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_75] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57] [DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56] [DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63] [DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67] [DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59] [DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62] [DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58] [DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50] [DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64] [DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78] [DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80] [DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33] [DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47] [DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51] [DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53] [DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32] [DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10]242349412333304034444050445458485453505153734140735351415343413143534030[/DhtmlXQ_move_71_35_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12]05045848041468691424694924234636[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_12] 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大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 17:01:06

yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 14:09
兵四平五和兵二平三都可以和
兵二平三变的第17回合红相九进七是败着，应兵八平七。

先走兵八平七次序正确，但并不影响黑胜之结果！如下图：
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[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment37][DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33][DhtmlXQ_comment45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45][DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_71]727604147646415130401424464938394959516159796151[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_28_71]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-13 18:19:16

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 17:01
先走兵八平七次序正确，但并不影响黑胜之结果！如下图：

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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-13 19:04:21

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 15:59
黑这样，妙胜！（此变较复杂，可谓变化多端！赵兄请细赏之！）

似乎可以按照附录6方法取胜

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[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_55_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_59_78]473740303323382843495646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_59_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_80]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 20:00:44

yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 18:19

接 17 楼！

黑可胜！
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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-13 20:23:10

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 20:00
接 17 楼！
黑可胜！

我找不到取胜方法，所以才有疑问，你这一着就可以判胜负似乎太武断，红接走相九退七后黑再怎么走？
就是18楼最终如何取胜我也拿捏不准，能否列出具体到终局的着法。

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2014-5-13 20:29:56

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 20:00
接 17 楼！
黑可胜！

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[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_38]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_38]
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桑莫喜发表于 2014-5-13 20:29

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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_38]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]红方须变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 20:48:38

yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 19:04
似乎可以按照附录6方法取胜

补充30回合帅五平六一变！
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[DhtmlXQ_title]第105局鸿雁双飞[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_80]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_61]应这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_82]这样可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_82]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-13 20:55:02

yjr123 发表于 2014-5-13 20:23
我找不到取胜方法，所以才有疑问，你这一着就可以判胜负似乎太武断，红接走相九退七后黑再怎么走？
就是 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]434046565758415158595657[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_55_77]
[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
[DhtmlXQ_move_17_59_78]473740303323382843495646[/DhtmlXQ_move_17_59_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment48]
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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-5-13 22:49:33

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 20:48
补充30回合帅五平六一变！

回复23楼红第24回合改走它着。
我之所以提出这个变化，是因为最后局面同《江湖第一排局-鸿雁双飞》中的附录9 图一相同，（区别是先走方差异）书中写为和棋。见下帖

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment80_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_80]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_61]应这样[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_78]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment78_82]这样可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_82]
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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-5-14 00:48:33

其实，《江湖第一排局-鸿雁双飞》书中，走到14楼、23楼及25楼的第19回合结束时，如下图

此时轮红走，书中有简明的变化，红走炮六平八（见书上册第193页，附录9 图一。演变几招后，又归到附录8第19着）
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[DhtmlXQ_comment79]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]||原注：||（与附录8第19着以后着法相同）||||续录附录8第19着以后着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9][DhtmlXQ_comment8]此图同25楼最后局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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其中很多变招，未一一研究。照录如上。

雨中萱 · 发表于 2014-5-14 10:01:50

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局面红先可和；||黑先也可和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-14 12:39:56

大征西发表于 2014-5-13 20:55

接 24 楼！
补充相九退七一变！
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[DhtmlXQ_class]象棋谱大全-古谱残局[/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_round]百局象棋谱精编[/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_date]0000-00-00[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]6[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]梅桔[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]4652[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]533420[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]象棋谱大全[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局是著名的大型排局之一，列原谱卷二的首局，变化十分复杂，末后形成炮兵残局，有很大的实用价值。全局原谱共列出31变局，结论是红先和。比《百局象棋谱》晚16年问世的《竹香斋象戏谱》收入此局时，在着法上作了很多补充，共列正变79个着法，改名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。其实正确的结论应是红先黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]此乃未雨绸缪之着，防黑下着炮3平5后，黑6路卒有平中叫将的可能，故先飞相拆除炮架。此外，另有两种着法：||||如图局面，原谱有30变局，整理归纳以后，黑方有三种主要变着：[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]此时原谱另有两种应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]损失步数，以致红方有和局的可能，此着应改卒5平4，则有很多取胜机会。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]弃兵意在引回黑炮，争取时间。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]暗藏杀手，剑拔弩张，红以固守化险为夷。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]喂炮后成妙和，着法精彩。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]双相高飞，点题“鸿雁双飞”[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_55]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]原谱27变局，此着黑方改走炮5平8，演变结果黑胜，原注是“红帅踱下劣黑胜”[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]原谱9变局，双飞相黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]此着黑应炮5平8[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]原谱10变局，黑炮偷红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]原谱2变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]原谱5变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]原谱6变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]原谱7变局，黑炮守红兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_61]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]否则，黑方可利用红炮的不利位置而走卒5平4，迫红帅退至下二路，然后以炮双卒轻易取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]得兵黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment74_52]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]缓着，应改走炮5进3，黑有胜机。[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]《竹香斋象戏谱》“鸿雁惊寒”主变[/DhtmlXQ_comment73_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]原谱3变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]原谱4变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]原谱20变局遮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]鸿雁双飞的点题着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]原谱8变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]原谱16变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment28_56]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]原谱11变局回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment29_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]下略，和局（原谱24变局）[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]原谱13变局，回炮和[/DhtmlXQ_comment31_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]原谱12变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment32_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]原谱22变局黑炮遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment33_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]原谱23变局拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment34_58]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]原谱21变局，炮兵守中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment35_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]原谱25变局，回炮红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment37_50]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]？||应改炮5进1，黑有取胜着法[/DhtmlXQ_comment38_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]原谱14变局兵占中心和[/DhtmlXQ_comment40_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]此着原谱走炮5退7，不够积极有力，现改炮5进1紧逼一着。如红置之不理，黑卒6平5，即成绝杀。因此，红方唯有帅六退一，则黑再退炮打兵，可赢得一步棋的时间。以下不论红帅六进一或帅六退一，均为黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment41_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]伏卒6平5杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]原谱26变局，拢兵红劣黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment43_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]红方双兵拉上手，以下九路兵渡河作战，黑将束手待擒。[/DhtmlXQ_comment45_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]原谱15变局，炮守兵和||||以上是《百局象棋谱》中“鸿雁双飞”一局的着法介绍。应当说明的是，为便于后人得窥原谱的庐山真面目，着法中除对误刻部分已作改正、特别繁复的变着有所删节外，基本上保持古谱原貌。另外，为便于读者赏析和进一步研究，诠注者在必要处加入注释。原谱关于“鸿雁双飞”局共列31个变局46变着，着法变化十分复杂，其中正官着法的最终结论是红先和。《竹香斋象戏谱》收入本局后，增为79变着，改局名为“鸿雁惊寒”，但结论不变，仍是红先和。现经反复研究，两部古谱关于此局的结论看来都是错误的，正确的结论应是红先黑胜。对此，已故象棋评论家张雄飞在他的遗稿《“鸿雁惊寒”商讨发凡》中已有论述，遗稿经排局名家周孟芳整理补充以后，由象棋名家王启宏选收在《弈海鸿泥》一书中。据编选者按，张雄飞研究此局颇有心得，他生前曾函编选者谈及此局，说他前后十余年，大大小小的条子写了不少，拟变不下数百则，初步的结论是红先黑胜。但由于变化十分复杂，尚未敢自信。张雄飞在研究此局中发现第18着黑方炮3平5以后，黑有取胜之道。经笔者反复研究，第18着时黑方在原谱列出的另两种变着炮3进1和炮3平8也有取胜之道。[/DhtmlXQ_comment47_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]亦和（原谱15变局变着）[/DhtmlXQ_comment48_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]原谱18变局炮守兵和[/DhtmlXQ_comment49_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]18变局变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]红帅压卒逼和[/DhtmlXQ_comment50_47]
[DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]原谱30变局，劣[/DhtmlXQ_comment51_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]原谱19变局[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]兵遮头和[/DhtmlXQ_comment52_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]原谱28变局，此着红自变兵二平三，黑卒4进1劣，结果红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment53_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]炮卒互扼守卫和。（原谱17变局，但原谱着法有误，实际上黑炮8平5打兵这一变黑有取胜之道）[/DhtmlXQ_comment54_53]
[DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]以下连续挺卒，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment61_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment64_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]以上均31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment65_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]双方互相要杀，不变作和[/DhtmlXQ_comment66_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment67_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment68_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment69_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]31变局中的变着[/DhtmlXQ_comment70_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]此着原谱为炮7进3，着法比较消极，错过胜机。现改炮7进2打将，投石问路，这是黑方制胜的重要途径。！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]！张云川棋友认为，这样可走成黑棋迫使红炮长捉黑卒之局面，按现行国内棋规，判黑胜。||||　【大征西注】[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]误[/DhtmlXQ_comment72_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]正！[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]以下仍可和！此时暂略[/DhtmlXQ_comment71_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment79_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_23]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]这样和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment75_51]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]这样！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]黑可胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_52]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]黑胜！[/DhtmlXQ_comment76_82]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment77_60]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]演变下去，黑亦可胜！||||此时暂略！[/DhtmlXQ_comment78_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]至此，黑炮又灭掉红兵，胜利在望也！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]黑妙胜！！！[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]次序正确，但并不影响最后结论！[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]至此，红炮长捉黑卒，不变作负。[/DhtmlXQ_comment80_45]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment38]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]！[/DhtmlXQ_comment81_48]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-14 13:47:07

大征西发表于 2014-5-14 12:39
接 24 楼！
补充相九退七一变！

现在看来，27楼局面是关键。

大征西 · 发表于 2014-5-14 13:59:43

zhaodi 发表于 2014-5-14 00:48
其实，《江湖第一排局-鸿雁双飞》书中，走到14楼、23楼及25楼的第19回合结束时，如下图

此时轮红走，书中 ...

黑可胜！
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_79]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_79]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9]||原注：||（与附录8第19着以后着法相同）||||续录附录8第19着以后着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]此图同25楼最后局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
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