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标题: 瓮中捉鳖 [打印本页]
作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-9-29 16:34
标题: 瓮中捉鳖
好久没钻研象棋，新拟一局，先供大家探讨，着法过几天贴出。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999993957376999559980999999660048994299409999999959996399999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-29 15:04:36[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-9-29 16:19:12[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]瓮中捉鳖（红胜）--朱小坚[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]160[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]24[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]8592940[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-9-29 17:17
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作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-9-29 18:38
一種思考方向,如無底兵是否也能勝呢?黑方有何頑強手段需要紅用到底兵才能勝? [DhtmlXQ][DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999993957376999559980999999660048994299409999999959996399999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-29 15:04:36[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-9-29 16:19:12[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]瓮中捉鳖（红胜）--朱小坚[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]160[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]24[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]8592940[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]55504041504041403748594980884041886863646878414078734041736341405758404166656465585949696369655559584224695955655857656659492442574766564837566649426656424341423748424147375646436341426369463637384241694941514857514139484151493936263837514139494151374726364959[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment7]以下黑有 卒7进1和将5平4等应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment7] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2014-9-29 19:08
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作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2014-9-30 15:40
有点难度，黑不轻易挺卒，黑象防守，红很难做到瓮中捉鳖，同时又防止黑卒和红兵兑子成和。
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-9-30 21:01
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-9-30 21:06
[/quote] 邢老师，兵不能过宫的。黑炮可以打回去啊
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-9-30 21:17
邢老师，兵不能过宫的。黑炮可以打回去啊[/quote] 感觉是这个思路，疏忽了 炮打回头，重拟着法 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999993957376999559980999999660048994299409999999959996399999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver] [DhtmlXQ_adddate]2014-9-29 15:04:36[/DhtmlXQ_adddate] [DhtmlXQ_editdate]2014-9-29 16:19:12[/DhtmlXQ_editdate] [DhtmlXQ_title]瓮中捉鳖（红胜）--朱小坚[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_length]160[/DhtmlXQ_length] [DhtmlXQ_hits]24[/DhtmlXQ_hits] [DhtmlXQ_sortid]8592940[/DhtmlXQ_sortid] [DhtmlXQ_owner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_oldowner]古婺[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]5550404150404140374859498087404187674264575841400010404110204140666540416766414066766442767340412030413130403141405041317371314171514131515331416564636453636465585949696369[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_7]以下黑有 卒7进1和将5平4等应着[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_1]80884041886863646878414078734041736341405758404166656465585949696369655559584224695955655857656659492442574766564837566649426656424341423748424147375646436341426369463637384241694941514857514139484151493936263837514139494151374726364959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2]203041313040314140504131677764427771314171514131515331416564636453636465585949696369[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3]413166766442767131412030413130403141405041317161314161514131515331416564636453636465585949696369[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_38_4]41516454[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_38_4][DhtmlXQ_comment4_39]以下红可取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_39] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-9-30 21:26
感觉是这个思路，疏忽了 炮打回头，重拟着法[/quote] 这回100分了
作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-10-1 06:40
95分，捉炮的思路正确，但此路变化红稍微缓慢了
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-1 13:58
95分，捉炮的思路正确，但此路变化红稍微缓慢了[/quote] 朱老师也是个对棋局着法极其严谨的人啊 不过我只能缩减2个回合，不知道能不能对。抛砖引玉吧 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]5599693757399999998099006699999948994299409999999959996399999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]555040415040414037485949808142645758648281718264666564420010404110204140716140412030413130403141405041316171314171514131515331416564636453636465585949696369[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-10-1 14:19
柒兄的此路着法我倒没考虑到，可得98分，还可以缩2回合。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-1 14:30
古婺 发表于 2014-10-1 14:19
柒兄的此路着法我倒没考虑到，可得98分，还可以缩2回合。

那第四回合改走炮一退三不知道能行不
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-10-1 21:03
古婺 发表于 2014-10-1 14:19
柒兄的此路着法我倒没考虑到，可得98分，还可以缩2回合。

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作者: 魔帝大人    时间: 2014-10-1 22:02
本帖最后由 魔帝大人 于 2014-10-1 22:05 编辑

14楼，第6回合黑飞象呢？
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-2 07:58
本帖最后由 柒匹狼 于 2014-10-2 09:19 编辑

以下  兵三进一 象7退5 炮一退一或炮一退三 还是18回合 炮一退一或炮一退三 这步棋是先走后走都可以
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-2 09:49
本帖最后由 柒匹狼 于 2014-10-2 09:52 编辑

整理一下

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]这步棋也可以是18回合，但是在局面控制感上不如炮一退三。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]这路变化比炮一退一的少走一个回合，这就是炮一退一与炮一退三的细微区别之处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_10]这样与炮一退一形成主变没有区别[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_7]先动帅也一样，不同的是看不出炮一退一与炮一退三的细微区别之处。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]这样的结果就是，减去了炮一退三的变化只能炮一退一。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]
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作者: zbz719    时间: 2014-10-2 10:55
朱先生的作品总是“丈二和尚，让人摸不着头脑”，忒费脑细胞了。

很喜欢这样的宽紧，很精致，脉路也清晰，看似简单，想破却不易。一旦步入正途，渐渐地，会让人有豁然开朗、柳暗花明之快意。
作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-10-6 21:06
国庆刚外出游玩回来，先把我原来拟的着法贴出，，我的着法应该更快:


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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]红劣黑幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]过早进兵，被黑兑掉，黑幸和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]余着红按正变取胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]无中生有的妙招，正确的进攻路线。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]此路着法红也可胜，步数略缓。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]若黑象边线防守，红可早胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]炮进此线，要着，为进兵做准备。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]黑想兑红兵，速败，红炮关门打狗，可提前消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]突兀冷着，退帅捉死炮，前面一系列运炮，献兵，都是为了此最终目的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment31]至此，红完成捉炮，今进入例胜残局阶段，但也颇费曲折。[/DhtmlXQ_comment31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]若吃兵，红可提前关门打狗，消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-6 21:22
古婺 发表于 2014-10-6 21:06
国庆刚外出游玩回来，先把我原来拟的着法贴出，，我的着法应该更快:

哈哈 朱老师 这是魔高一尺道高一丈啊
作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-10-6 21:37
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-6 21:22
哈哈 朱老师 这是魔高一尺道高一丈啊

哈哈，你11楼炮一退一的变化我也没考虑到，，魔高没一丈也有九尺啊。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-6 21:52
古婺 发表于 2014-10-6 21:37
哈哈，你11楼炮一退一的变化我也没考虑到，，魔高没一丈也有九尺啊。

朱老师的作品 对运子技巧很有启发性 对于实战来讲有很大帮助 这里残局就像围棋里的手劲很好玩
作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-10-6 22:06
放红兵过河后瓮中捉鳖的手段也不错
作者: 笑傲桔枰    时间: 2014-10-7 13:22
本帖最后由 笑傲桔枰 于 2014-10-7 13:25 编辑
古婺 发表于 2014-10-6 21:06
国庆刚外出游玩回来，先把我原来拟的着法贴出，，我的着法应该更快:

第五回合，红炮可直接炮一平八，下着走炮八退三，可再少一回合。为避免这招出现，可将红九路底兵改排在八路。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-7 20:17
笑傲桔枰 发表于 2014-10-7 13:22
第五回合，红炮可直接炮一平八，下着走炮八退三，可再少一回合。为避免这招出现，可将红九路底兵改排在八 ...

黑可以在第四回合 改将5进1 为 将5平4的 这样还是要炮一退七才能16回合捉吃炮
作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-10-7 21:14
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-7 20:17
黑可以在第四回合 改将5进1 为 将5平4的 这样还是要炮一退七才能16回合捉吃炮

是的，也可改走飞象， 我的将5进1粗糙了。
作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-10-14 20:51
邢春波 发表于 2014-9-30 21:17
感觉是这个思路，疏忽了 炮打回头，重拟着法

回复8#邢春波：
       第19步，红方兵三进一，黑方如果不走卒7进1吃兵，改走将5平6。第20步，不论红走兵三进一吃卒（吃卒必然）还是兵三平四，黑走将6退1吃兵。
       此后红方高兵和炮必有一子被黑将拴在四路，难以在三路形成保底相的阵型，所以无法捉死黑炮。
       另外，红方高兵和炮若要全部摆脱黑将的拴链，红兵必须冲到黑2线，成为低兵。黑方有象防守底线7.1位，红方也无法用三路低兵做炮架保护三路底相，所以无法捉死黑炮。

       19#楼主的着法也是同样，第13步红走兵三进一，黑改走将4平5，再将5平4，红方难以捉死黑炮。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-10-14 21:04
我在23楼就提出此变化，瓮中捉鳖的着法没有列出。
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-10-14 21:07
迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-10-14 20:51
回复8#邢春波：
       第19步，红方兵三进一，黑方如果不走卒7进1吃兵，改走将5平6。第20步，不论红走兵 ...

那个变化红方是个例胜残局，所以没有列出来。
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-14 21:18
本帖最后由 象棋法官 于 2014-10-14 21:21 编辑
迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-10-14 20:51
回复8#邢春波：
       第19步，红方兵三进一，黑方如果不走卒7进1吃兵，改走将5平6。第20步，不论红走兵 ...

这样捉不死黑炮，但黑方也很难守和。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]此路着法红也可胜，步数略缓。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]若黑象边线防守，红可早胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]炮进此线，要着，为进兵做准备。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]黑想兑红兵，速败，红炮关门打狗，可提前消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]至此，红完成捉炮，今进入例胜残局阶段，但也颇费曲折。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]若吃兵，红可提前关门打狗，消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]献兵为红炮关门打狗战术打通道路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]将底献车，阴险毒辣之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-10-14 21:28
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-14 21:18
这样捉不死黑炮，但黑方也很难守和。

如果捉不死黑炮，黑炮在红方宫中镇守中路，红方胜不了。
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-14 21:29
迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-10-14 21:28
如果捉不死黑炮，黑炮在红方宫中镇守中路，红方胜不了。

30楼着法你走走看
作者: 邢春波    时间: 2014-10-14 21:44
迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-10-14 20:51
回复8#邢春波：
       第19步，红方兵三进一，黑方如果不走卒7进1吃兵，改走将5平6。第20步，不论红走兵 ...

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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]若黑象边线防守，红可早胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]炮进此线，要着，为进兵做准备。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]黑想兑红兵，速败，红炮关门打狗，可提前消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]突兀冷着，退帅捉死炮，前面一系列运炮，献兵，都是为了此最终目的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]至此，红完成捉炮，今进入例胜残局阶段，但也颇费曲折。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]献兵为红炮关门打狗战术打通道路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]将底献车，阴险毒辣之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-10-14 21:47
本帖最后由 迟暮寒士 于 2014-10-14 22:02 编辑
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-14 21:29
30楼着法你走走看

确实是例胜残局，只是想如何瓮中捉鳖，没有想到用与主题相背的着法也可取胜。
余老师提到的着法，黑卒不吃红兵，放红兵过河，也可瓮中捉鳖，着法也不错。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-14 21:57
yjr123 发表于 2014-10-14 21:04
我在23楼就提出此变化，瓮中捉鳖的着法没有列出。


余老师的意思好像是这个

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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]大胆兵，舍身象口！[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]迫使黑将离开中线！否则红若炮平象眼，黑可将5平6牵制住红炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]献兵为红炮关门打狗战术打通道路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]突兀冷着，退帅捉死炮，前面一系列运炮，献兵，都是为了此最终目的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]至此，红完成捉炮，今进入例胜残局阶段，但也颇费曲折。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]若吃兵，红可提前关门打狗，消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_16]黑想兑红兵，速败，红炮关门打狗，可提前消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]若黑象边线防守，红可早胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]过早进兵，被黑兑掉，黑幸和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]红劣黑幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]此路着法红也可胜，步数略缓。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_35]
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作者: 迟暮寒士    时间: 2014-10-14 22:07
本帖最后由 迟暮寒士 于 2014-10-14 22:14 编辑
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-14 21:57
余老师的意思好像是这个

       我刚才按照我的理解，试走了一下，行不通，才知道理解错了。你的着法应该是是于老师的意思。红方炮和高兵巧妙摆脱了黑将的拴链。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-14 22:10
迟暮寒士 发表于 2014-10-14 22:07
我刚才按照我的理解，试走了一下，行不通，才知道理解错了。你的着法是于老师的意思？

这路变化并不比主变差，第15回合黑要象5进7也很精彩。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]无中生有的妙招，正确的进攻路线。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]炮进此线，要着，为进兵做准备。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]大胆兵，舍身象口！[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]献兵为红炮关门打狗战术打通道路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]至此，红完成捉炮，今进入例胜残局阶段，但也颇费曲折。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]过早进兵，被黑兑掉，黑幸和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]红劣黑幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]
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作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-14 22:11
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-14 21:57
余老师的意思好像是这个

好像不是这个意思，象可是有机会飞到右边的。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-14 22:13
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-14 22:11
好像不是这个意思，象可是有机会飞到右边的。

第15回合飞右也没用
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-14 22:18
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]无中生有的妙招，正确的进攻路线。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]炮进此线，要着，为进兵做准备。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]大胆兵，舍身象口！[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21]迫使黑将离开中线！否则红若炮平象眼，黑可将5平6牵制住红炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25]献兵为红炮关门打狗战术打通道路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]突兀冷着，退帅捉死炮，前面一系列运炮，献兵，都是为了此最终目的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]若吃兵，红可提前关门打狗，消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_16]黑想兑红兵，速败，红炮关门打狗，可提前消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]若黑象边线防守，红可早胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]过早进兵，被黑兑掉，黑幸和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]红劣黑幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]此路着法红也可胜，步数略缓。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_35]
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作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-14 22:26
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-14 22:18

恩，把退底忽略了。
作者: 柒匹狼    时间: 2014-10-14 22:52
本帖最后由 柒匹狼 于 2014-10-14 23:17 编辑
象棋法官 发表于 2014-10-14 22:18


吃不到炮就不吃了，改做杀。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]无中生有的妙招，正确的进攻路线。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]炮进此线，要着，为进兵做准备。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]保持黑象中路防守，此路变化黑比较顽强。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]大胆兵，舍身象口！[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment25]献兵为红炮关门打狗战术打通道路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]至此，红完成捉炮，今进入例胜残局阶段，但也颇费曲折。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_31]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_16]黑想兑红兵，速败，红炮关门打狗，可提前消灭黑炮。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]若黑象边线防守，红可早胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]后面着法与主变同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]过早进兵，被黑兑掉，黑幸和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]红劣黑幸和[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_12]
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作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-10-15 08:21
柒匹狼 发表于 2014-10-14 22:52
吃不到炮就不吃了，改做杀。

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作者: 古婺    时间: 2014-10-15 08:42
本帖最后由 古婺 于 2014-10-15 08:43 编辑

多谢各位的补充分析，让红兵过河吃卒，优势比较明显，不捉炮也胜。
作者: yjr123    时间: 2014-10-15 08:57
13回合黑卒7进1，至16回合成例胜残局。
13回合黑将4平5，20回合象3退5，至23回合成例胜残局。
13回合黑将4平5，20回合将6平5……
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 09:07
yjr123 发表于 2014-10-15 08:57
13回合黑卒7进1，至16回合成例胜残局。
13回合黑将4平5，20回合象3退5，至23回合成例胜残局。
13回合黑将 ...

例胜残局难度不同，我认为朱兄的选择正确。
作者: 象棋法官    时间: 2014-10-15 09:12
炮高兵单缺象对炮单象应该是例胜吧？那么14回合就已经……



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