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标题: 此三局红方半边布子差异极大,但实际是同局 [打印本页]

作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-23 06:41
标题: 此三局红方半边布子差异极大,但实际是同局
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-27 03:00 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局应是最早的版本,据本论坛专家鉴定,本谱棋局系抄袭李德林等编著的《象棋杀着大全》。因手头无林谱,故以此局替代。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-23 06:46
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-23 06:48 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_comment0]本谱1976年刻印。此局红方半边布子差异大,但实与上局相同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-23 07:11
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-23 07:21 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]原谱注解变着即如此,恰与李彭飞大师的诠正着法完全相同!||||正因有此变着,以致原连照胜变成非连照胜,故时鑫大师作有改局。其实此着造成红方早两个回合胜,应属黑方误着,因此不改亦可。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30][DhtmlXQ_comment30]这是原谱正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30][DhtmlXQ_comment39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment39][DhtmlXQ_comment0]倪文高拟局。||||本局黑有二路车,着法略有不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-23 07:18
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-25 17:28 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]比原谱主变少2个回合,所改与第2楼神似。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-23 07:40
时鑫大师的改局应算是调整双方的子力配置,使其更合理!
作者: 湖艓    时间: 2024-6-23 08:53
本帖最后由 湖艓 于 2024-6-23 09:48 编辑

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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-23 14:08
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-23 14:10 编辑

不错,这才叫改!时鑫的那局是诠正,或称优化原局!但《坐隐逸机》是书名,不是局名,原谱只有序号,没有局名。
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2024-6-24 01:54
老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-23 14:08
不错,这才叫改!时鑫的那局是诠正,或称优化原局!但《坐隐逸机》是书名,不是局名,原谱只有序号,没有局 ...

那大湿叫什么
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-24 09:44
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-24 01:54
那大湿叫什么

喜歡減子   叫做偷工減料
作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-24 10:26
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2024-6-25 17:39 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment41]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment41][DhtmlXQ_comment26]原谱象七进五,而此时是三路底象,明显印错[/DhtmlXQ_comment26][DhtmlXQ_comment16]此着原谱象5退3,但与第13回合象7进5不符,应系印错!《极谱》是象5退7,虽是错着,但与第13回合的着法相符[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
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作者: 老鸽子    时间: 2024-6-24 11:15
《象棋杀着大全》与《坐隐逸机》两谱的作者都是黑龙江人,所以两谱的许多棋局存在关联。
作者: 石川铃华老湿    时间: 2024-6-25 14:16
聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-24 09:44
喜歡減子   叫做偷工減料

我操,这比喻,大湿可以叫你一声 大师,妙着!
作者: 聨吟客    时间: 2024-6-26 08:48
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-25 14:16
我操,这比喻,大湿可以叫你一声 大师,妙着!

我又夢見棋局  不是我作的

局名叫做   圓圓的圓圓的臉   

哈哈哈哈哈   圖形局   但走法只有一步殺

真是太好笑了   




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