此三局红方半边布子差异极大，但实际是同局

老鸽子

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]此局应是最早的版本，据本论坛专家鉴定，本谱棋局系抄袭李德林等编著的《象棋杀着大全》。因手头无林谱，故以此局替代。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35][DhtmlXQ_comment0]本谱1976年刻印。此局红方半边布子差异大，但实与上局相同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]原谱注解变着即如此，恰与李彭飞大师的诠正着法完全相同！||||正因有此变着，以致原连照胜变成非连照胜，故时鑫大师作有改局。其实此着造成红方早两个回合胜，应属黑方误着，因此不改亦可。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30][DhtmlXQ_comment30]这是原谱正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment30][DhtmlXQ_comment39]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment39][DhtmlXQ_comment0]倪文高拟局。||||本局黑有二路车，着法略有不同。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]比原谱主变少2个回合，所改与第2楼神似。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0][DhtmlXQ_comment35]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
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老鸽子

时鑫大师的改局应算是调整双方的子力配置，使其更合理！

湖艓

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不错，这才叫改！时鑫的那局是诠正，或称优化原局！但《坐隐逸机》是书名，不是局名，原谱只有序号，没有局名。

石川铃华老湿

老鸽子 发表于 2024-6-23 14:08
不错，这才叫改！时鑫的那局是诠正，或称优化原局！但《坐隐逸机》是书名，不是局名，原谱只有序号，没有局 ...

那大湿叫什么

聨吟客

石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-24 01:54
那大湿叫什么

喜歡減子   叫做偷工減料

老鸽子

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老鸽子

《象棋杀着大全》与《坐隐逸机》两谱的作者都是黑龙江人，所以两谱的许多棋局存在关联。

石川铃华老湿

聨吟客 发表于 2024-6-24 09:44
喜歡減子   叫做偷工減料

我操，这比喻，大湿可以叫你一声 大师，妙着！

聨吟客

石川铃华老湿 发表于 2024-6-25 14:16
我操，这比喻，大湿可以叫你一声 大师，妙着！

我又夢見棋局  不是我作的

局名叫做   圓圓的圓圓的臉   

哈哈哈哈哈   圖形局   但走法只有一步殺

真是太好笑了