对二炮争功的研究及诠正

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-10 20:31:05

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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]《象棋民间排局》修订本中的着法，结果黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]黑方新变[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37] [DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22] [DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_20] [DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_26] [DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_21] [DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_10] [DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment24_6]黑解将还将，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_6] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]

老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-20 00:44:25

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2021-3-20 00:51 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2021-3-19 22:26
找到了

这局不就是"走马联营"吗？图势完全相同，“又进行了创作”是什么意思？《蓓蕾初放象棋谱》是已知的、蒋权最早的棋谱。那个鞠发友又是何方大师，怎么从来没听说过。

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-18 19:31:33

这样能和吗？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]至此脱帽。以下变化十分复杂。黑方主要有四种进攻方法分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]原来认为是求和唯一正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
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bh22wsc · 发表于 2014-11-5 10:45:07

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★星海★ · 发表于 2014-11-21 15:02:38

菜鸟来玩认为10回合炮四进三可和，黑方用炮打相，红方仍难守。

sdndsx · 发表于 2014-9-17 09:55:59

邢春波先生的这个主题很有价值，如果探索出正确结论，那就是功德无量的事！

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-5-10 23:26:17

就是这个江湖残局，三十多年前，一个老头在我们县城摆残这局局，我输给他一元钱。之后，我和同学们天天研究，一个学期过去了，我和同学们又陆续输给他好几元钱，也没搞懂。后来，接触到棋书，才知道象棋这种玩意也和数理化一样，也有书籍讲座。在书上看到这局棋，太难了，当时根本没能力接受。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-11 12:06:56

和得不干净

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[DhtmlXQ_comment11]新变化，这样走才能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]原来认为是求和唯一正着。||但我认为不如炮一平四简洁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]《象棋民间排局》修订本中的着法，结果黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
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邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-11 19:28:45

和得不干净[/quote] 虽然和得不是太干净，但黑方也没什么好的方法，红如不出错的话还是能够守和的。这样的结局也许会更受街头棋摊喜爱。

一卒擎天 · 发表于 2014-5-11 20:12:33

红变无益，不可取。

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-11 20:25:54

红变无益，不可取。[/quote] 请问指的是哪一着

一卒擎天 · 发表于 2014-5-12 13:08:43

请问指的是哪一着[/quote] 朋友： 3楼说似乎和得不干净。你不认可了吗？红变结果黑优可取吗？另外多说一句：无论哪个和局黑变可速和是不必改局的。

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-12 20:24:39

朋友： 3楼说似乎和得不干净。你不认可了吗？红变结果黑优可取吗？另外多说一句：无论哪个和局黑 ...[/quote] 这位棋友是不是认为原着法红方能够走成和棋。其实原着法有可议之处，黑方可以主动求变且占优势。

一卒擎天 · 发表于 2014-5-12 20:28:13

这位棋友是不是认为原着法红方能够走成和棋。其实原着法有可议之处，黑方求变红方难和。[/quote] 本局又成红先黑胜局了，我还得学啊。

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-15 19:56:55

红方6回合走炮一平七的新变化 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]4199259959994799747584314299999999629999509999999985992948579999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]二炮争功 [/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]4140504075454050745462544548544259494263842429192414635514175758171858484948[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment12]||||||新变由杨亚明先生提出[/DhtmlXQ_comment12][DhtmlXQ_comment13]||||正着，改走它着皆败[/DhtmlXQ_comment13][DhtmlXQ_comment15]||||||正着，不为串打所诱[/DhtmlXQ_comment15][DhtmlXQ_comment19]||依然形成1楼红6回合走炮一平四的结局，成红方想和但不好和，黑方想胜也不好胜的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19] [/DhtmlXQ]

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-5-15 21:03:51

一卒擎天发表于 2014-5-12 20:28
本局又成红先黑胜局了，我还得学啊。

3楼最后应该还是和棋，但红方很难走。

一卒擎天 · 发表于 2014-5-15 22:21:31

3楼最后应该还是和棋，但红方很难走。[/quote] 红难走的和局才是好局！<二炮争功》是江湖佳局！

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-16 20:20:34

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zhiqihuang · 发表于 2014-5-17 13:24:36

先进马捉炮，红怎么应对？
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_23]747062708480708275708580[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_24]745462547555547584548555[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局又名“龙驹宝马”，亦称“二炮逼宫”，曾刊于《象棋民间排局》第27局。结论为和棋。后来在《江湖棋局搜秘》中被诠为黑胜。在《江湖排局精解》中综合各谱得出和局的结论。||结论正确但着法有误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]至此脱帽。以下变化十分复杂。黑方主要有四种进攻方法分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]新变化，这样走才能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]原来认为是求和唯一正着。||但我认为不如炮一平四简洁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]《象棋民间排局》修订本中的着法，结果黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]黑方新变[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_6]黑解将还将，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_6]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26_23]似乎和得不干净[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_26]575848086375545775674765678665475040084858484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_26][DhtmlXQ_comment12]先走进马捉炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-5-17 19:19:51

本帖最后由 yuntao云涛于 2014-5-17 19:21 编辑

邢春波发表于 2014-5-16 20:20
5回合黑马5进3的变化

黑也许有机会吃兵，试演变，不过黑底卒好像难保
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]||||正着，改走它着皆败[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]||||||正着，不为串打所诱[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]||依然形成1楼红6回合走炮一平四的结局，成红方想和但不好和，黑方想胜也不好胜的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_19]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]||||还是形成这个局面[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]||新变[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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邢春波 · 发表于 2014-5-17 21:05:32

zhiqihuang 发表于 2014-5-17 13:24
先进马捉炮，红怎么应对？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]本局又名“龙驹宝马”，亦称“二炮逼宫”，曾刊于《象棋民间排局》第27局。结论为和棋。后来在《江湖棋局搜秘》中被诠为黑胜。在《江湖排局精解》中综合各谱得出和局的结论。||结论正确但着法有误。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]至此脱帽。以下变化十分复杂。黑方主要有四种进攻方法分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]新变化，这样走才能和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]原来认为是求和唯一正着。||但我认为不如炮一平四简洁。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑优势[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]《象棋民间排局》修订本中的着法，结果黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]黑方新变[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_6]黑解将还将，黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_6]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment26_23]似乎和得不干净[/DhtmlXQ_comment26_23]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_26]575848086375545775674765678665475040084858484948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_12_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]先走进马捉炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32437[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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邢春波 · 发表于 2014-11-5 20:52:08

bh22wsc 发表于 2014-11-5 10:45

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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]||此时出帅，黑如何取胜呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8]依然成马炮底卒对红炮兵双相[/DhtmlXQ_comment8]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32437%23lastpost[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-11-5 21:35:16

末尾红方是很难走的，这局棋难度不比“征西”小。

★星海★ · 发表于 2014-11-21 14:01:18

本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-11-21 14:06 编辑

这样看看：
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_author]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_20]54354252293948585758595885558487355431415552875752575857[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_20]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_21]4548575859495859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_21]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]7454[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_23]747062708480708275708580[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]至此脱帽。以下变化十分复杂。黑方主要有四种进攻方法分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]《象棋民间排局》修订本中的着法，结果黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]黑方新变[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_6]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]zqhuang[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_24]黑胜残棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_27]654750400848584849482939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_19_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]邢春波提出的变化，较有希望。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment26]黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_19]劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_1]也是正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]也可走车二平四。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19]这样看看：[/DhtmlXQ_comment19]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_4]86650805654605854654858954468959[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_20_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]献炮，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]可能是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_11]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D32437[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
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一卒擎天 · 发表于 2017-2-1 12:13:37

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-5-17 19:19
黑也许有机会吃兵，试演变，不过黑底卒好像难保

15楼朋友：23回炮七平二？放弃吃马，想法吃底卒？

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-2-1 19:04:32

此局的創作者是誰呢?還是已經不可考?或某位不知姓名棋攤主的作品 ?

桑莫喜 · 发表于 2017-2-1 21:05:38

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局还有一些变化,黑第5回合马进3和进7变着中都有新变着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]也可走车二平四。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]至此脱帽。以下变化十分复杂。黑方主要有四种进攻方法分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑方新变[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]这样呢.[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_27]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]邢春波提出的变化，较有希望。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]这样呢.[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这样呢.[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_19]这样看看：[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]黑优[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]献炮，和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_19]劣着，黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]黑胜残棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_11]可能是黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_11]《象棋民间排局》修订本中的着法，结果黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_12]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_29]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_10]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_13]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_19]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_9]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_20]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_26]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]例和[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_21]
[DhtmlXQ_comment23_8]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment24_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_1]也是正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_1]
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老鸽子 · 发表于 2021-3-18 17:05:23

本帖最后由老鸽子于 2021-3-18 17:08 编辑

这局棋至少有五六十年的历史了，早先名为“跑马联营”、“走马联营”，均为蒋权拟局，图势有所不同，且左右方向相反，但棋型和基本着法相似。1987年徐家亮、苏德龙《象棋排局百花谱》之“马踏联营”应该就是改自以上两局。

按本局末之势，即马炮底卒对炮低兵双相，若是在实战中，在下恐怕十盘要杀你七八盘。

一卒擎天 · 发表于 2021-3-19 11:11:00

本局马6退5，我五退七变，易和，棋友们还有异议吗？

yjr123 · 发表于 2021-3-19 12:01:49

一卒擎天发表于 2021-3-19 11:11
本局马6退5，我五退七变，易和，棋友们还有异议吗？

哪一个五退七变？

另外我提的问题怎么跑主题帖下（原2楼位置）去了？如能和则纠正第6回合红炮一平七变认为黑胜的结论。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7]至此脱帽。以下变化十分复杂。黑方主要有四种进攻方法分述如下：[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11]原来认为是求和唯一正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]黑方优势，红难走。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
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★星海★ · 发表于 2021-3-19 12:41:22

yjr123 发表于 2021-3-19 12:01
哪一个五退七变？

另外我提的问题怎么跑主题帖下（原2楼位置）去了？如能和则纠正第6回合红炮一平七变 ...

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