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[专题局研究] 【游戏局】车双马兵能困毙士象全吗?

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1#
发表于 2014-12-8 14:27:44 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |正序浏览 |阅读模式
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60#
发表于 2014-12-17 17:22:02 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-17 17:23 编辑

这样设计好看!
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59#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-17 10:44:13 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-17 10:59 编辑
高原红 发表于 2014-12-17 01:59

几个变化都是75回合。
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58#
发表于 2014-12-17 01:59:51 | 只看该作者
★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-15 19:29

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57#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-15 19:29:27 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-17 10:56 编辑

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56#
发表于 2014-12-15 17:58:31 | 只看该作者
橘中搜秘 发表于 2014-12-15 14:59
解你这东西有用吗?

因为你不会
55#
发表于 2014-12-15 14:59:34 | 只看该作者
2521368 发表于 2014-12-15 14:06


解你这东西有用吗?
54#
发表于 2014-12-15 14:06:54 | 只看该作者
橘中搜秘 发表于 2014-12-14 22:34
这个论坛怎么悲哀了?
这叫排局,你不懂。象棋是一种游戏而已。
琴棋书画,不过是益智健脑,修身养性, ...

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53#
发表于 2014-12-14 22:34:36 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 橘中搜秘 于 2014-12-15 08:01 编辑
2521368 发表于 2014-12-14 22:13
净玩些没用的。
这个论坛悲哀啊

这个论坛怎么悲哀了?
这叫排局,你不懂。象棋是一种游戏而已。
琴棋书画,不过是益智健脑,修身养性,除此之外还有什么用?


52#
发表于 2014-12-14 22:13:33 | 只看该作者
净玩些没用的。
这个论坛悲哀啊
51#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-14 20:30:07 | 只看该作者
高原红 发表于 2014-12-14 16:07
第61回应该这样走!还可速胜!

72回合了,和我最开始的推测很接近
这局棋最佳着法估计就是70回合左右。
50#
发表于 2014-12-14 16:07:18 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-14 16:15 编辑

第61回应该这样走!还可速胜!

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49#
发表于 2014-12-14 11:42:22 | 只看该作者
       A、红棋明明一下就能将死黑方,却不能那样走。B、黑棋明明那样走会被将死,却偏偏那样走。C、黑方为了不被困毙,可以不顾被将死的危险,大胆走棋。D、红方只允许困毙黑方,为了达到此目的,还要躲着黑将走,以免不小心将死黑将。
    由于以上几点特殊情况与正常下棋时的的情况不同,一下子难以适应,所以,总觉得思维会存在很大的盲点,所列着法难免会有一些错误。
48#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-14 11:42:08 | 只看该作者
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47#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-14 09:46:12 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-14 09:51 编辑
高原红 发表于 2014-12-14 03:44
第72回马四退五家3退5,在平兵……即困死了!

方权老师意见正确。
58回合应车五平六更快。

46#
发表于 2014-12-14 03:44:32 | 只看该作者
★星海★ 发表于 2014-12-12 14:43

第72回马四退五家3退5,在平兵……即困死了!
45#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-12 14:43:47 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-13 21:24 编辑

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44#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-12 13:25:52 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-13 21:26 编辑

按照方权老师29回合车六平九的走法,能走到百回合之内。
我觉得红方最佳走法应少于80回合。

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43#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-12 13:04:57 | 只看该作者
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42#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-12 04:09:08 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-12 13:05 编辑
高原红 发表于 2014-12-11 22:25
是否应这样走!

29回合象5进7比较好。
32回合将6平5不妥,车九平六再马一退二困毙。

41#
发表于 2014-12-11 22:34:00 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-11 22:39 编辑

看来还很复杂!也可能是顺序问题!这几天上网发东西太难发上,要重复点多次才发的成功。不知啥原因?
40#
发表于 2014-12-11 22:25:50 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-11 22:59 编辑

是否应这样走!
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39#
发表于 2014-12-11 22:11:47 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-11 22:20 编辑

第32回黑方应走士5退4!有许多变化。
第36回应象3退1!红车无法移开中路!如移开将可平中路!
38#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-11 13:09:31 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-11 17:46 编辑

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37#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-10 21:44:29 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 ★星海★ 于 2014-12-11 14:53 编辑

17回合黑方不动士为好,步数较多。
红方还需调整走法
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36#
发表于 2014-12-10 15:24:34 | 只看该作者
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35#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-10 13:19:46 | 只看该作者
高原红 发表于 2014-12-10 12:59
只有将黑将赶到兵的另一边,兵才能渡河!
如在同一也则:

对,所以前面要走很多步数,兵过河后还要再困一次黑将。
34#
发表于 2014-12-10 12:59:12 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 高原红 于 2014-12-10 13:19 编辑

只有将黑将赶到兵的另一边,兵才能渡河!
如在同一边则:
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33#
发表于 2014-12-10 12:55:25 | 只看该作者
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32#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-10 11:40:43 | 只看该作者
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