作者: 凌云子 时间: 2007-1-10 22:44
以下是引用yjr123在2007-1-10 13:21:00的发言:
还是超版厉害!佩服!
总结一下:
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-24 07:45
“羽盖春旗”原载《竹香斋象戏谱》,和局。
《象棋》1996年第2期,陈德清先生提出是红胜。
可能在同年,杨明忠先生等于《象棋》上指出,陈的意见不妥。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-24 08:02
接上。陈文大致是1、车二进九 2、车二平三 3、车八平六 将4平5 4、车三退一 士6进5 5、炮九退七 车5退2或炮6平或马4退及进均为红胜。
杨文认为第3回合车八平六是败局,至炮九退七,黑接走车5退6…………黑胜。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-24 08:17
我当年看了两文后,觉得5、炮九退七 黑接走将5平6是正着,黑胜。又想,3、车八平六 将4平5 4、车三退九! 5、炮九退七 车5退6!……
将上述见解投往了《象棋》,可能拙见不对,未得刊。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-24 17:28
翻找出来,“羽”局是《竹谱》第三集第39局。杨与陶诒谟先生合写的文章发表在《象棋》1996年第5期。
拙文1996年在本市的报上刊载,也只能如此了,简单说几着:
3、车八平六!将4平5 4、车三退一 士6进5 5、车三进一
如炮九退七,将5平6,以下——甲、炮九平五,炮6平7,相一退三,卒6进1连杀;乙、车三退八,马4退5,炮九进一,炮6平7,黑胜;丙、兵一平二,车9进1,炮一退九,炮6平9后有卒6进1或车5平6,帅四平五,车6进1的杀招,黑胜。
5、…… 士5退6 6、车三退九 士6进5 7、炮九退七 车5退6!
8、车六进一 炮6平1 9、车三进九 士5退6 10、车三退一………………
作者: yjr123 时间: 2007-2-24 19:28
楼上结尾也是红胜吧
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-25 00:48
楼上车六平三!好棋。拙文也是走了此着,但车7平8是改走的卒6平5……。
作者: 19840515 时间: 2007-2-25 01:47
第10着黑车5退2呢??
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-25 09:43
以下是引用19840515在2007-2-25 1:47:00的发言:第10着黑车5退2呢??
可与陈德清先生所述的着法相同——车5退2??车六进一,炮6平1,车三进底(照)士5退6,车三退六!!士6进5,车六平一,车5平7,车一平九,车7平8,炮一平三,将5平6,帅四平五,红胜定。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-25 10:02
车5退6!是杨、陶两位先生首先提出的(走子次序不同),伏红三路车进底照再车三退二、车六平一,黑有士5进6的妙手。可惜,他们没有看到前述车六平三!!的好棋,作出了黑胜的结论。
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2007-2-25 18:40
以下是引用dave7788在2007-2-25 0:48:00的发言:
楼上车六平三!好棋。拙文也是走了此着,但车7平8是改走的卒6平5……。
卒6平5……也是红胜吧!
哈哈,《象棋》果真诠过此局!我也在当年的杂志中找到了!
dave7788 与yjr123 等人演示真是精彩!
其实作为后来的出书作者真的有必要介绍棋局的来龙去脉!
让读者少走弯路!
作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-26 08:32
以下是引用凌云子在2007-2-25 18:40:00的发言:卒6平5……也是红胜吧!
哈哈,《象棋》果真诠过此局!我也在当年的杂志中找到了!
dave7788 与yjr123 等人演示真是精彩!
其实作为后来的出书作者真的有必要介绍棋局的来龙去脉!
让读者少走弯路!
支持!
一、请试拟卒6平5以后的走法!
二、出书作者如果把来龙去脉及搜集的有价值的意见加以介绍,则真正是好书!也是尊重别人劳动成果的最好体现。
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2007-2-27 14:07
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2007-2-27 16:22
拙文第四回合黑是炮1退5……
作者: dave7788 时间: 2010-10-18 12:51
第3回合车八平六比原谱车八进一好,看到的诠正文均无正确答案。现又有诠正稿投到百23,意见也值得商榷。至今,此局尚无令人信服的结论。
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2010-10-19 00:48
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-4 21:44
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可按原谱着法成和
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-4 21:49
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作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-4 22:31
第四回合,红车三退一的变化更加复杂。
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-5 10:01
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2022-4-5 10:05 编辑
网名把我弄迷糊了,“羽盖春旗”在《百26》时,签名?!我没整准。抱歉!
日西卫东都是高手,致敬!
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-5 14:02
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... peid%26typeid%3D107
2013年的《百26》署名没有我。
我在2006年的智弈象棋网与2007年的华工象棋网研究"羽盖春旗",是在白老师和余老师指导下找出红胜着法的,所以高手不敢当。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-5 14:14
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2022-4-5 14:17 编辑
您的红胜着法好,我整不到这样的。学习了!我没有分清凌云子与小橘梅。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-5 14:19
这回分清了,永记不忘啦
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-5 14:34
1996年2月《象棋》的诠正文章。
当年的第一感觉,红底车可移至河口。
以流交流很不方便,不像现在的网络时代随时都可以交流。
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-5 14:41
白老师太客气了!
1996年5月《象棋》。
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-5 15:38
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=25903&extra=page%3D2
《百23》陆曙光先生的投稿链接。
作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-5 16:15
我也來一個 這樣可否
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作者: 老鸽子 时间: 2022-4-6 14:18
竹谱此局恐怕是同类局中最复杂之局,除《百花》外,古今未见改局,当然这可能与长期以来以为其和局结论成立有关。可以说,此局非大师级,莫敢动它。
作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-6 17:02
測試
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_3]214148584146164638465859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_58_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_4]5778595847275646423246162721167621515848785776465155464455354030354544455745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_50_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_5]472759581215777252517275272840481512757151527175121821312824484424447555524255575041314142418765[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_6]1232595832307772525121314746727151521019463671413638585938395958391941401917405052425057175758573050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_44_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_50_7]3050727151527141474131415242415157785150786658596687[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_50_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_8]777151527176474959584948585952421040415240485776[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]4842393858183878413261604041213141317818[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_10]4847393858182131405038784727594927294948187861605051314151527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_11]606950411118484739385767385878585958413258596768696847495958494858594868213168618085613185453151594951581819585272715251876951714548[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_12]1918304060615041110178798769796961695868696848685949686949485747484738264748696848492618[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_21_13]4838696838396818[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_21_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]727178798769796961695868696848685949574749394748[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment75]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_72]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_26]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_20]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_20]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]。[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-8 08:57
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[DhtmlXQ_binit]1999879959999999711180217299999948384241309999997858995799999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_title]《羽盖春旗》[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]。[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]7170426070604150193930406069504111184847393857672120[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_66_1]3141354541514636214145413241[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_66_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_66_2]212446362444354544344546[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_66_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_58_3]214148584146164638465859[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_58_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_50_4]5778595847275646423246162721167621515848785776465155464455354030354544455745[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_50_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_46_5]472759581215777252517275272840481512757151527175121821312824484424447555524255575041314142418765[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_46_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_44_6]1232595832307772525121314746727151521019463671413638585938395958391941401917405052425057175758573050[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_44_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_50_7]3050727151527141474131415242415157785150786658596687[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_50_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_8]777151527176474959584948585952421040415240485776[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_31_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_10_9]4842393858183878413261604041213141317818[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_11_10_10]4847393858182131405038784727594927294948187861605051314151527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_11_10_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_11]606150411118405061693817696050513937173660615150727178716171581837573657717050517077484780101816777616127671515271771216777252517276161276715152717741501040121677765242765647275646423246162721595857385848382616123231121550411535413240462618463621283638182687652838353826384838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_12]1918304060615041110178798769796961695868696848685949686949485747484738264748696848492618[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_21_13]4838696838396818[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_21_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]727178798769796961695868696848685949574749394748[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_9_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_75]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_72]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_39]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_26]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_20]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_20]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]。[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_15]385878585958413258596768696847495958494858594868213168618085613185453151594951581819585272715251876951714548[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_15][DhtmlXQ_comment13]日西:这个变化是否应该有说明[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-9 00:59
我的改局本來想法很單純
研究卻發現變化超乎預期一些
呵呵呵
作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-9 01:01
這樣增一回合
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[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2011-08-27 11:19:01[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2011-08-27 11:19:00[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title] 羽蓋春旗 陳明仁改擬[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]30[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_red]象棋巫师测试团队[/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redname]象棋巫师测试团队[/DhtmlXQ_redname]
[DhtmlXQ_black]象棋巫师测试团队[/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackname]象棋巫师测试团队[/DhtmlXQ_blackname]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]486[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]3729170[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]ljlz4[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]ljlz4[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-9 07:30
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2022-4-9 08:45 编辑
日西明仁的改局都非常好。
日西20楼之改局符合原作,33楼则另辟蹊径!明仁30楼增卒局是按车八平六的思路,我的浅见不用再改成36楼了。
作者: yjr123 时间: 2022-4-9 07:52
呵呵,又弄迷糊了


作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-9 07:56
哈哈!不是东而是西。
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[DhtmlXQ_title]《羽盖春旗》[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]4047675759495747808151527271525171705153696131326162323162613132[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_21_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]385878585958413258596768696847495958494858594868213168618085613185453151594951581819585272715251876951714548[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_4]606150411118405061693817696050513937173660615150727178716171581837573657717050517077484780101816777616127671515271771216777252517276161276715152717741501040121677765242765647275646423246162721595857385848382616123231121550411535413240462618463621283638182687652838353826384838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_66_5]3141354541514636214145413241[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_66_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_66_6]212446362444354544344546[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_66_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_7]214148584146164638465859[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_58_7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_50_8]5778595847275646423246162721167621515848785776465155464455354030354544455745[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_50_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_46_9]472759581215777252517275272840481512757151527175121821312824484424447555524255575041314142418765[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_46_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_44_10]1232595832307772525121314746727151521019463671413638585938395958391941401917405052425057175758573050[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_44_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_50_11]3050727151527141474131415242415157785150786658596687[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_50_11]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_31_12]777151527176474959584948585952421040415240485776[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_31_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_13]4842393858183878413261604041213141317818[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_14]4847393858182131405038784727594927294948187861605051314151527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]1918304060615041110178798769796961695868696848685949686949485747484738264748696848492618[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_21_16]4838696838396818[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_15_9_17]727178798769796961695868696848685949574749394748[/DhtmlXQ_move_15_9_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_75]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_72]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_72]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_69]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_69]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_20]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-9 08:44
本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2022-4-9 08:48 编辑
从小就有马马虎虎的毛病,学会下棋改了点,不能彻底。编辑过来。
作者: dave7788 时间: 2022-4-9 09:04
日西:第16回合车二进六变,下招车二退五改退一再退四可还原。建议车主着法为车二进六、车二退一处注解为车二退五
作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-9 11:39
感謝宏寬兄
呵呵呵呵呵
作者: yjr123 时间: 2022-4-9 12:15
车八进一怎么变化?
作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-9 22:31
我的想法是按照原局走法最後黑有高卒應可勝
還是余兄發現了什麼嗎
作者: 凌云子 时间: 2022-4-10 08:03
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[DhtmlXQ_title]《羽盖春旗》888[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和局[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]71704260706041501939304060615041111840506169381769605051393717366061515072717871617158183757365771705051707748478010181677715152717252517276161276715152717741501040121677765242765647275646423246162721595857385848382616123231121550411535413240462618463621283638182687652838353826384838[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_3]214148584146164638465859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_54_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]5778595847275646423246162721167621515848785776465155464455354030354544455745[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_46_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_5]472759581215777252517275272840481512757151527175121821312824484424447555524255575041314142418765[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_42_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_5_54_6]5251757151527175[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_54_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_7]121677725251727616127671515271771216777252517276[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_40_7]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_8_46_9]305072715152714147413141524258574241[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_46_9]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_12]4847393858182131405038784727594927294948187861605051314151527262[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_13]606950411118484739385767385878585958413258596768696847495958494858594868213168618085613185453151594951581819585272715251876951714548[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_13]
[DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_14]2120585118104130383040413040413169674767808151527271525110197818193918197170515040303141595867685857686630506667575867685857191739371737[/DhtmlXQ_move_13_13_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_33_15]814119395958676858573979[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_33_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_14_21_16]4047675759495747808151527271525171705153696131326162323162613132[/DhtmlXQ_move_14_21_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_17]1918304060615041110178798769796961695868696848685949686949485747484738264748696848492618[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_17]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment71]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment71]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_68]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_68]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_67]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_67]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_59]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_59]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_65]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_65]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_57]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_51]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_54]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_39]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_26]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_20]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_20]
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作者: 聨吟客 时间: 2022-4-20 09:58
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2022-4-20 10:03 编辑
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