《可爱的中国》图案征局大奖赛揭晓

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-11-28 17:20:39

由《象棋世界》编辑部主办，象棋理论、象棋活动大师周平先生出资组织的《可爱的中国》征局大奖赛揭晓。一等奖：辽宁白宏宽二等奖：浙江孙达军广东邓伟雄三等奖：江西裘中师江苏杨佳麟广东姚佑根优胜奖：刘玉波杨启忠李汉彪李建保董光清朱光启赖文兴张武浩杨易帆张天伟

yanyun · 发表于 2011-11-28 18:42:54

希望欣赏白先生的杰作《可爱的中国》完整版。

1963 · 发表于 2011-11-28 22:46:28

希望欣赏白先生的杰作《可爱的中国》完整版。[/quote] 《象棋世界》2011.3第7页。

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-16 17:07:34

祝贺《可爱的中国》征局赛圆满成功！祝贺所有的获奖者！祝贺华工会员获得前三名！获奖者之中有半数名字是首次看到，排局还是有希望的。

zbz719 · 发表于 2011-12-16 17:10:53

祝贺白先生获得冠军，也祝贺其他获奖棋友~

棋人ctq · 发表于 2011-12-16 19:03:00

祝贺！

1963 · 发表于 2011-12-16 21:18:30

就是有点纳闷，为什么还有那么多高手不参赛？

1963 · 发表于 2011-12-16 21:20:58

是不是与前2名的棋局太早放上网有关？

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-17 23:28:13

就是有点纳闷，为什么还有那么多高手不参赛？[/quote] 与个人的意愿、比赛期间忙于工作无多少时间拟局等有关吧。

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-20 13:11:39

刚得到的信息，一等奖原66回合胜，已有人认为52回合可胜！具体胜法我暂未看到。

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-20 13:22:33

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dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-20 13:35:12

此前已有人认为此局五十多个回合可胜，暂未说明具体胜法。

zhaodi · 发表于 2011-12-20 18:55:01

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-12-20 20:36:43

zhaodi 发表于 2011-12-20 19:01
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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-12-20 20:54:36

13楼着法正确！！！

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-21 07:57:18

本帖最后由 dave7788 于 2011-12-22 07:17 编辑

殿忠的着法精妙，高手！我作此局时是先推演出下图，后想增加着法，忽略了红方如没有一点八位兵，则有殿忠发现的前炮平一之妙招！！！
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dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-21 08:08:16

精妙！我投稿《百24》的棋文还须增加这一段。

凌云子 · 发表于 2011-12-21 17:06:44

本帖最后由凌云子于 2011-12-21 17:08 编辑

愚人浅见，望周老师白老师等前辈勿见怪
----------------国家领土主权追求完整统一，结局呈现大好河山支离破碎是不吉利的，在某种意义上是忌讳的。
----------------烹饪教材将“国旗党徽中国地图”等列为拼盘造型艺术的禁忌。
----------------如果排局的结尾能出现“可爱的中国”将是完美的艺术作品。

dave7788 · 发表于 2011-12-21 17:16:32

中国走向胜利！走向光明！走向美好！

zhaodi · 发表于 2011-12-21 20:04:17

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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-12-21 21:34:41

zhaodi 发表于 2011-12-21 20:04
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zhaodi · 发表于 2011-12-21 21:53:14

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外星人乔丹 · 发表于 2011-12-21 22:56:30

凌云子发表于 2011-12-21 17:06
愚人浅见，望周老师白老师等前辈勿见怪
----------------国家领土主权追求完整统一，结局呈 ...

谈两点看法：第一，象棋有红黑双方对抗，现在中国有没有战争，是否可以取消象棋？第二，古人为何要发明前图案局，是不是应该取消这个排局体裁？请指教！

zbz719 · 发表于 2011-12-22 00:22:46

此局难度很大，能够找出正解着实不易，佩服一下赵老师~
可以肯定，虽少了一些回合，但精华无失，不愧佳构！
学习中！

zbz719 · 发表于 2011-12-22 00:37:01

凌云子的意见值得考虑，毕竟民族文化很大程度上讲是寓意文化，排局创作也是一样。

“如果排局的结尾能出现“可爱的中国”将是完美的艺术作品”----赞同这个提议。

凌云子 · 发表于 2011-12-22 14:58:20

外星人乔丹发表于 2011-12-21 22:56
谈两点看法：第一，象棋有红黑双方对抗，现在中国有没有战争，是否可以取消象棋？第二，古人为何要发明前 ...

我没有要求“取消象棋”更没有要求“取消排局这个体裁”。

它山之石可以攻玉，因而我以烹饪艺术为鉴，谈自己的浅见。

进行“前图案局”的艺术创作时，是不是应该稍为注意一下艺术的禁忌或艺术的边界？

再次请前辈勿见怪，希望周老师能创作更多艺术强思想好的完美作品

邢春波 · 发表于 2011-12-22 18:48:25

zhaodi 发表于 2011-12-21 21:53
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邢春波 · 发表于 2011-12-22 19:23:42

本帖最后由邢春波于 2011-12-22 19:24 编辑

看了各位老师的见解和观点，我也谈一下我的一点浅见和感受，我觉得排局这门艺术发展到现在，喜欢它的人是越来越少，各种体裁却越来越多，似乎都想弄一个某种题材着法最长的第一。而大多数棋迷想看到是着法精彩，构思巧妙的棋局，而不是着法有多长，布局有多漂亮。
体裁应该服从于排局为排局服务，而不应该排局服务于体裁

邢春波 · 发表于 2011-12-22 21:27:28

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