炮顶炮

沉默 · 发表于 2014-3-6 14:18:21

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豫东棋人 · 发表于 2014-3-6 15:10:04

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667 · 发表于 2014-3-6 16:46:41

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-3-7 11:01:53

嘻嘻,在下也仿擬一局湊熱鬧

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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-3-7 17:52:13

几十年前上中学的时候，还不太懂下象棋，只是毫无章法地乱下。有一个棋迷给大家摆了一棋局，如下图所示。他教大家说“这是平行棋，要保持炮的间距相等，四个炮要成平行四边形的形状”。我觉得很有趣，喜欢数字游戏的我对此局添加兵卒，做了改进，并把数据做了扩大研究。

数年后，在《竹香斋》中看到一局名为“长亭短亭”的棋局，与我之前改进局完全吻合，如下图所示。书中还给出了取胜口诀：“兵动则炮齐，炮齐则兵动。兵不动则01,23,45。”

我做的数据扩大研究如下表所示，当时达到百位数，现在几乎全部忘了。绿色背景的数据是在棋局“长亭短亭”中涉及到的。

后来，我在棋馆还遇到过这样的事：有人把一副棋子分成三堆，两个人轮流拿取棋子，每次只能从一堆中拿取，每次拿取多少不限，最后一个把棋子拿完者为胜。我试了一下，这不正是我上中学时研究过的数据吗？区区几个数目的棋子，根本不在话下，那个倒霉的撞到我的枪口上了。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-3-7 18:49:01

竹香齋的局應是2樓的局,局名雙炮禁雙炮

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-3-7 19:52:41

竹香齋的局應是2樓的局,局名雙炮禁雙炮[/quote] 想起来了，局名是叫“双炮禁双炮“，注释中还补充说明在其他棋谱中也叫”长亭短亭“、”曹操逼宫“，局具体面记不清了。 ”导弹互访“挺深奥，红兵过河，可考虑在三路炮的挤压配合下，抓紧时间捉死7路炮。也可考虑在中路炮的挤压配合下，抓紧时间捉死5路炮。也可考虑把兵平到中路，炮在前兵在后，打开士架…… 先不要贴出着法，我还在研究中。

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-3-7 20:19:28

[/quote] 2#豫东棋人贴出的局面，着法我很熟悉，有一点难度。而1#的局面，我以为只是把2#棋盘左边的兵卒移到三路而已，着法应该和2#相同，所以也没理睬。刚看上去，你在3#贴出的局面，有两对兵卒，红方进一步兵，黑方进一步卒，相当于没走，着法应与去掉2#局面中的兵卒之后的着法相同，着法简化了，只要保持双炮等距即可。但转念又一想，既然是你贴出的棋局，一定不会那么简单，于是便结合你给出的着法，做了一番探究，果然另是另一番天地。之后又回到1#，研究了一番。

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-3-7 20:57:51

兵卒先动者，败！

沉默 · 发表于 2014-3-8 21:07:02

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邢春波 · 发表于 2014-3-8 21:27:57

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667 · 发表于 2014-3-8 21:55:53

多了这么一个陷阱

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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-3-8 22:34:13

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沉默 · 发表于 2014-3-9 02:11:13

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-3-9 08:04:17

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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-3-10 08:31:16

本帖最后由迟暮寒士于 2014-3-11 04:16 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2014-3-9 08:04
邊卒可再排進一步

回复4#联吟客：
你这一局“导弹互访”棋局和本帖所讨论的棋局相对比，局面虽相似，但性质不同，另开一贴讨论。不在这里影响别人“炮顶炮”。

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-3-10 10:18:36

好的,有興趣研究我的局者,請移駕至新主題討論

邢春波 · 发表于 2014-3-10 20:30:45

沉默发表于 2014-3-9 02:11

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沉默 · 发表于 2014-3-10 22:03:31

邢春波发表于 2014-3-10 20:30

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邢春波 · 发表于 2014-3-11 21:34:06

沉默发表于 2014-3-10 22:03

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沉默 · 发表于 2014-3-11 23:02:40

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一招惊心 · 发表于 2014-3-12 11:34:54

楼上第一步红炮二进五变中，最后第四回合红接走炮二进二，黑如何应对？

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