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[原创棋局] 失街亭 红先胜 赵殿忠

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发表于 2014-6-12 13:36:07 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
来局难的吧。

简简单单的炮兵对马卒局,想都不要想,和棋!如果您有这样的想法,您就是马谡!呵呵。

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2#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-13 01:11:59 | 只看该作者
破了这局,就奉上“空城计、泪斩马谡”2局,可好?
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发表于 2014-6-13 08:36:11 | 只看该作者
破了这局,就奉上“空城计、泪斩马谡”2局,可好?[/quote] 这样吗 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn49nn47nnnn59nn23nnnnnnnnnnnn20nn50nnnn00nnnnnnnnnnnn07nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment57]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment57] [DhtmlXQ_comment73]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment73] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-13 08:41:04 | 只看该作者
呵呵,没这么简单。

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发表于 2014-6-13 09:33:51 | 只看该作者
呵呵,没这么简单。[/quote] 是有玄机,这样呢 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn49nn47nnnn59nn23nnnnnnnnnnnn20nn50nnnn00nnnnnnnnnnnn07nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment63]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment63] [DhtmlXQ_comment77]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment77] [DhtmlXQ_comment87]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment87] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-13 13:51:14 | 只看该作者
黑方不会配合红方的着法,如第3回合,象3进5。

黑方的想法是,怎么在弃卒、弃马(可能顺序有差异)后,形成单象和炮兵相。基于这个思路,黑方进行防守。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment6]想进将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]黑方就想弃掉马卒,能形成单象巧和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]亮帅,防止黑进将。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5][DhtmlXQ_comment7]这样和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
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发表于 2014-6-13 15:38:13 | 只看该作者
前两回合双方应该这样走,之后我就不会了。 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title][/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479949999999995999239999999999002099509999999999990799999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]2322504049390717[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]不让黑方将5平4.||||如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。这样就形成了巧和的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment4]之后,红炮再设法打吃黑马和黑卒,很难,我想不出。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-13 15:48:21 | 只看该作者
王老弟的第2回合注解非常透彻!
确实如此。
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-14 13:17:54 | 只看该作者
提示一下:

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]诸葛亮派马谡镇守街亭,一向只会纸上谈兵的马谡不遵守诸葛亮的将令,在军队安营时犯了兵家大忌,驻扎的地方并无水源,地势也无险可守。他的部队很快被司马懿消灭掉了,街亭失守,才逼得诸葛亮摆计空城。更忍痛泪斩马谡。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]意图深远,但红方能否让黑计策得逞?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]正着,不让黑方将5平4,如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。黑就算弃掉马和卒,也可形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]下面如何,请继续研究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]软,此卒目前不是关键,早晚可以吃掉,关键是不要让黑棋弃掉卒马后,形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]抢占4路,弃掉黑卒,算准可以单象和炮兵相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]强行弃马,红不得不吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]至此,红方无法同时控制象和将,又无炮架,只能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]直接吃卒士和棋,飞相看黑应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]还是强行弃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]有无卒都可和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]无法同时控制象和将,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]和主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]红还是必须先占六路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]以后着法同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]黑方占得4路但丢掉象,输棋。可参考后面着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]软,因黑卒的位置正好控制帅平六路,可成和棋。后面还有这样的局面出现。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]这个局面单象可以巧和炮兵相。具体着法后面有详演。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
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10#
发表于 2014-6-14 22:32:40 | 只看该作者
在赵老师的提示和诱导下,接着胡乱的走几步: [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_title]失街亭[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event] [DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date] [DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place] [DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round] [DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red] [DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam] [DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black] [DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam] [DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating] [DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark] [DhtmlXQ_author]将族[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999479949999999995999239999999999002099509999999999990799999999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]2322504049390717595717185758182858484050472520424843426443232818394964422303182849484224030928182507180809790818797824427818[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_1]505143035141030928183938426425071808094908184948[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]182838372818250718080949426449480818373818284828[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_3]595740305707002122212002[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_5_4]47250021222120022507[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_5_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5]07175957504049391718[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_4_6]1718472518284948204257595040594940304942[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_4_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_9_7]575850405828002122214030[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_9_7] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]诸葛亮派马谡镇守街亭,一向只会纸上谈兵的马谡不遵守诸葛亮的将令,在军队安营时犯了兵家大忌,驻扎的地方并无水源,地势也无险可守。他的部队很快被司马懿消灭掉了,街亭失守,才逼得诸葛亮摆计空城。更忍痛泪斩马谡。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1] [DhtmlXQ_comment2]意图深远,但红方能否让黑计策得逞?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2] [DhtmlXQ_comment3]正着,不让黑方将5平4,如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。黑就算弃掉马和卒,也可形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]下面如何,请继续研究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment31]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment31] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_31]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_31] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_3]软,此卒目前不是关键,早晚可以吃掉,关键是不要让黑棋弃掉卒马后,形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_3] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]抢占4路,弃掉黑卒,算准可以单象和炮兵相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]强行弃马,红不得不吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_8]至此,红方无法同时控制象和将,又无炮架,只能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_5]直接吃卒士和棋,飞相看黑应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_6]还是强行弃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_8]有无卒都可和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_8] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]无法同时控制象和将,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]和主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_4] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_5]红还是必须先占六路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_5] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_6]以后着法同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_6] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_9]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]黑方占得4路但丢掉象,输棋。可参考后面着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_9]软,因黑卒的位置正好控制帅平六路,可成和棋。后面还有这样的局面出现。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_9] [DhtmlXQ_comment7_14]这个局面单象可以巧和炮兵相。具体着法后面有详演。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_14] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule] [DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype] [DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype] [/DhtmlXQ]
11#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-14 22:42:22 | 只看该作者
黑应对错误。第10回合,黑进将。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]意图深远,但红方能否让黑计策得逞?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]正着,不让黑方将5平4,如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。黑就算弃掉马和卒,也可形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]软,此卒目前不是关键,早晚可以吃掉,关键是不要让黑棋弃掉卒马后,形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]抢占4路,弃掉黑卒,算准可以单象和炮兵相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]强行弃马,红不得不吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]至此,红方无法同时控制象和将,又无炮架,只能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]直接吃卒士和棋,飞相看黑应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]还是强行弃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]有无卒都可和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]无法同时控制象和将,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]和主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]红还是必须先占六路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]以后着法同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]黑方占得4路但丢掉象,输棋。可参考后面着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]软,因黑卒的位置正好控制帅平六路,可成和棋。后面还有这样的局面出现。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]这个局面单象可以巧和炮兵相。具体着法后面有详演。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
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12#
发表于 2014-6-15 07:58:54 | 只看该作者
黑应对错误。第10回合,黑进将。[/quote] 我原来还以为第10步如果黑将6平5,红有炮九进一打象的着法,现在才看到这一着行不通,黑有弃马保象的妙手。 看来,这局棋第2步红走帅五平六,帅占据六路之后,炮和相还不能随意乱走,应为·因为当前的局面还属巧胜局面,红方一旦走错,就再也走不回胜局形式,永远失去胜机。是这样的吗?
13#
发表于 2014-6-15 09:12:57 | 只看该作者
主变至少40回合以上,大约有一个实用型支变,此支变大致演变成炮兵相巧胜单马。只是猜猜,还有待进一步研究
14#
发表于 2014-6-15 10:45:39 | 只看该作者
楼上猜想有点偏差,看看如何 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn49nn47nnnn59nnnnnnnn23nnnn0020nn50nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn07nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_comment47]以下大概是残局库的局例,我就胡乱地意思意思哈。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment47] [DhtmlXQ_comment101]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment101] [DhtmlXQ_comment111]红胜||[/DhtmlXQ_comment111] [DhtmlXQ_comment113]黑失象必负。||[/DhtmlXQ_comment113] [/DhtmlXQ]
15#
发表于 2014-6-15 14:49:24 | 只看该作者
楼上猜想有点偏差,看看如何[/quote] 上楼有一处错误,给出前面的着法 [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]520,450[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_movelist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htmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_binit]nnnnnnnn49nn47nnnn59nnnnnnnn23nnnn0020nn50nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn07nn[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [/DhtmlXQ]
16#
发表于 2014-6-15 19:04:05 | 只看该作者
上楼有一处错误,给出前面的着法[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949994799995999999999239999002099509999999999999999990799[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]23225040493907175957171857581828584840504725204248434224[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_1]5051432328183938426438486442234318284847515025075051473742204349281837475152474852514959182859582829072920425859426429075152590900212221[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_14_1] [/DhtmlXQ]
17#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-15 22:42:57 | 只看该作者
杨启忠 发表于 2014-6-15 14:49
上楼有一处错误,给出前面的着法

第15楼杨兄的着法思路非常正确,但只是其中一路黑速败的着法,黑还有更顽强的抵抗之着。即邢兄之出的象5进3,同时还有象5进7一变。

将6进1变,速胜着法如下

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18#
发表于 2014-6-16 05:32:00 | 只看该作者
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19#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-16 10:58:52 | 只看该作者
邢春波 发表于 2014-6-16 05:32

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[DhtmlXQ_comment12]红不敢相换马。和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
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20#
发表于 2014-6-16 14:48:51 | 只看该作者
提示一下:[/quote] 9楼第六回合黑可以将6平5,走回来啊,红的有办法吗
21#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-16 15:54:43 | 只看该作者
koeiii 发表于 2014-6-16 14:48
9楼第六回合黑可以将6平5,走回来啊,红的有办法吗

红续走进炮。打双。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]意图深远,但红方能否让黑计策得逞?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]正着,不让黑方将5平4,如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。黑就算弃掉马和卒,也可形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]下面如何,请继续研究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]软,此卒目前不是关键,早晚可以吃掉,关键是不要让黑棋弃掉卒马后,形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]抢占4路,弃掉黑卒,算准可以单象和炮兵相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]强行弃马,红不得不吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]至此,红方无法同时控制象和将,又无炮架,只能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]直接吃卒士和棋,飞相看黑应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]还是强行弃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]有无卒都可和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]无法同时控制象和将,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]和主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]红还是必须先占六路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]以后着法同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]黑方占得4路但丢掉象,输棋。可参考后面着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]软,因黑卒的位置正好控制帅平六路,可成和棋。后面还有这样的局面出现。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]这个局面单象可以巧和炮兵相。具体着法后面有详演。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
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22#
发表于 2014-6-16 16:24:53 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-16 15:54
红续走进炮。打双。

第七回合黑象3进1,不让打双
23#
发表于 2014-6-16 16:28:38 | 只看该作者
zhaodi 发表于 2014-6-16 15:54
红续走进炮。打双。

7回合,象3进1
24#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-16 17:08:11 | 只看该作者
对,顺着这个思路研究下去,和17楼我所提示的第7回合的黑几大应招异途同归。

22、23楼,第7回合象3进1,炮五平九,象1进3,炮九退六,卒3平2,帅六进一,......异途同归。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]意图深远,但红方能否让黑计策得逞?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]正着,不让黑方将5平4,如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。黑就算弃掉马和卒,也可形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]下面如何,请继续研究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]软,此卒目前不是关键,早晚可以吃掉,关键是不要让黑棋弃掉卒马后,形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]抢占4路,弃掉黑卒,算准可以单象和炮兵相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]强行弃马,红不得不吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]至此,红方无法同时控制象和将,又无炮架,只能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]直接吃卒士和棋,飞相看黑应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]还是强行弃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]有无卒都可和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]无法同时控制象和将,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]和主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]红还是必须先占六路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]以后着法同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]黑方占得4路但丢掉象,输棋。可参考后面着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]软,因黑卒的位置正好控制帅平六路,可成和棋。后面还有这样的局面出现。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]这个局面单象可以巧和炮兵相。具体着法后面有详演。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]将族[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]异途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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25#
发表于 2014-6-16 17:36:01 | 只看该作者
这局面和11楼第15回合差不多一样啊,你11楼说是和棋
26#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-16 17:41:46 | 只看该作者
呵呵,差不多是差不多,但是,就这一步黑将的区别,胜负易手!仔细体会吧。

11楼第15回合局面,续走红先和
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24楼最后局面,续走红先胜
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27#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-6-16 17:54:29 | 只看该作者
26楼的局面很奇特,一步黑将的差异,结果居然不同!
koeiii兄的观察力很仔细,我还没有发现这个局面。(因我没有深入研究将6平5,再象3进1这变)

经koeiii兄指出,我专门把这两个局面提出来,仔细研究一下。请大家也研究。
28#
发表于 2014-6-16 18:59:37 | 只看该作者
以为18楼可以速胜 ,工作时想到黑可平卒换象,回到家赵兄已回复

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1]困住黑马,必然之着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2]意图深远,但红方能否让黑计策得逞?[/DhtmlXQ_comment2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3]正着,不让黑方将5平4,如果黑将平到4路,再马1进3,红兵七进一。这样,红兵无法平到六路,停在七路为黑象所利用,成为黑象的挡箭牌,红炮打不到黑象。黑就算弃掉马和卒,也可形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]下面如何,请继续研究。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]软,此卒目前不是关键,早晚可以吃掉,关键是不要让黑棋弃掉卒马后,形成单象巧合炮兵相的局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_3]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]抢占4路,弃掉黑卒,算准可以单象和炮兵相。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]强行弃马,红不得不吃。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]至此,红方无法同时控制象和将,又无炮架,只能和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]直接吃卒士和棋,飞相看黑应招。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]还是强行弃马。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]有无卒都可和棋了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]无法同时控制象和将,和棋。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]和主变殊途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]红还是必须先占六路。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_5]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]以后着法同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]正着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]黑方占得4路但丢掉象,输棋。可参考后面着法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]软,因黑卒的位置正好控制帅平六路,可成和棋。后面还有这样的局面出现。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]这个局面单象可以巧和炮兵相。具体着法后面有详演。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_14]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23]异途同归。[/DhtmlXQ_comment23]
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29#
发表于 2014-6-16 21:23:39 | 只看该作者
邢老师高见,果然有单双步的问题。
30#
发表于 2014-6-16 21:29:52 | 只看该作者
这棋基本上就是殊途同归,又如黑不飞边象,走卒3平2,又有一番变化,真是太奇妙了
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