游击战

平原一刀 · 发表于 2014-7-21 20:40:16

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zhaodi · 发表于 2014-7-21 23:12:16

我拆解是和棋

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-7-21 23:19:40

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yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-7-22 00:59:46

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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-7-22 03:14:42

另外变化[/quote] 楼上末尾和棋形式有疑问。第7步不走卒6平5，改走炮7平8较好，最后和棋形式没有疑问。楼上着法，末尾黑方长杀犯规，兵卒将帅长捉是允许着法，红兵长捉不犯规，所以要判黑负。不知是谁定的不公道的规矩。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-22 07:44:48

yuntao云涛发表于 2014-7-22 00:59
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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-7-22 09:09:56

楼上第8步兵一进一变着，往下没仔细想，原以为红兵捉死一炮，是和棋，看到余老师下的定论，接着往下看，是黑胜。接兵一进一变着末尾局势继续走三步：8，………… 9，兵四进一弃兵将5平6吃 10，兵一再进一捉炮炮9退1 11，兵一再进一捉双炮8逃跑黑胜。

yuntao云涛 · 发表于 2014-7-22 12:39:55

楼上第8步兵一进一变着，往下没仔细想，原以为红兵捉死一炮，是和棋，看到余老师下的定论，接着往下看，是黑 ...[/quote] 楼上两位楼主确实高明，看来是和局。如果再添加一个红底兵会如何呢？ [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999949999999999999998086514399999999329902999979689999999958[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]游击战[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_author]七分半[/DhtmlXQ_author] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_owner]七分半[/DhtmlXQ_owner] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [/DhtmlXQ]

平原一刀 · 发表于 2014-7-22 23:18:05

本帖最后由平原一刀于 2021-9-22 01:16 编辑

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自由的风 · 发表于 2014-7-23 00:15:52

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自由的风 · 发表于 2014-7-23 00:42:25

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平原一刀 · 发表于 2014-7-23 00:55:54

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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-23 06:30:06

平原一刀发表于 2014-7-23 00:55

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自由的风 · 发表于 2014-7-23 10:34:37

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迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-7-23 10:38:21

自由的风发表于 2014-7-23 10:34

第5步走兵三平四

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-23 10:40:38

自由的风发表于 2014-7-23 10:34

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自由的风 · 发表于 2014-7-23 11:20:16

象棋巫师判和，根据大陆棋规还是红胜吧？
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-7-23 11:51:41

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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]这样稳妥[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_7_2]524281826050824232423031[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]应该帅六平五靠棋规取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_8_4]818260508232504030315141[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_8_11_7]32318131514131336050774737473343[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_11_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]這樣會如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-7-23 12:01:24

還是不行
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]这样稳妥[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_7_2]524281826050824232423031[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_7_2]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]应该帅六平五靠棋规取胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_11]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_18]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_8_4]818260508232504030315141[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_8_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_10]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_10]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_9_5]51418232[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_9_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_6]72423242[/DhtmlXQ_move_4_10_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_7_14_3]7773605073434131[/DhtmlXQ_move_7_14_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_8_11_7]32318131514131336050774737473343[/DhtmlXQ_move_8_11_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]這樣會如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7]紅勝定[/DhtmlXQ_comment7]
[DhtmlXQ_move_10_10_9]493960508171424139325040[/DhtmlXQ_move_10_10_9]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_10]79494737584860504939424139325040[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_10]
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平原一刀 · 发表于 2014-7-26 21:12:45

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[DhtmlXQ_author]七分半[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_owner]七分半[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment47][DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_5]727161697181693937473932[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_5]
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感谢几位棋友的宝贵意见，调整了一下，
这样改动解决了红方用棋规取胜。

yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-27 08:49:14

平原一刀发表于 2014-7-26 21:12
感谢几位棋友的宝贵意见，调整了一下，
这样改动解决了红方用棋规取胜。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]6858658758683747717050607079876979725251818260508232504030315141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1][DhtmlXQ_comment32]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
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平原一刀 · 发表于 2014-7-27 20:53:03

yjr123 发表于 2014-7-27 08:49

余老师金精火眼！我再看看。。

象棋法官 · 发表于 2014-7-27 21:02:34

平原一刀发表于 2014-7-26 21:12
感谢几位棋友的宝贵意见，调整了一下，
这样改动解决了红方用棋规取胜。

似乎是最后互走闲着和棋。

平原一刀 · 发表于 2014-7-27 21:15:41

本帖最后由平原一刀于 2014-11-10 22:02 编辑

象棋法官发表于 2014-7-27 21:02
似乎是最后互走闲着和棋。

的确有点棘手。看下图
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-7-28 18:35:17

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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_author]七分半[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_47]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_5]727161697181693937473932[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]6858658758683747717050607079876979725251818260508232504030315141[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_32_1]
[DhtmlXQ_comment32]这样呢？[/DhtmlXQ_comment32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]也這樣走有何不同嗎[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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yjr123 · 发表于 2014-7-28 19:03:54

聨吟客发表于 2014-7-28 18:35

黑可以接走炮8平7

聨吟客 · 发表于 2014-7-28 19:21:25

嗯 ,我好像越來越笨了,呵呵呵

我弟弟剛幫我弄了新電腦,不過是把兩台舊的(都各有故障的地方 )沒壞的部分組合而成,
還管用,只不過網站的字圖縮小了,呵呵呵, 電腦他比我強多了,晚點還須請他幫忙如何把字圖放大

迟暮寒士 · 发表于 2014-7-28 19:44:39

余老师21#“卒7平8”一招很高，阻止红相由一路飞到底线三路。我据此演示多变，因黑方有炮进到对方底线驱赶红兵的有力着法，红方不能胜，和棋。

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