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[江湖局研究] 将得好瘾改局 是胜是和难以确定

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发表于 2014-11-29 16:04:27 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-7 00:24:32 | 只看该作者
象棋法官 发表于 2014-12-6 20:06

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发表于 2014-12-5 17:19:27 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 象棋法官 于 2014-12-5 17:20 编辑

22楼这是凌云子的改局,结果正和,最早出现在智弈象棋网上。
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沉默 发表于 2014-12-1 18:52

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发表于 2014-11-29 20:56:24 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]将得好过瘾 改局[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]60684150705040500502424106277767020848380838413168696757[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1]4131[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_1] [DhtmlXQ_comment12]以下和棋还是黑胜难以确定,比原局大有难度[/DhtmlXQ_comment12] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_10]原局这两种走法都是黑胜,改局这种胜法不成立[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_10] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_comment14]||||以下还是黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment14] [/DhtmlXQ]
6#
发表于 2014-11-29 22:28:16 | 只看该作者
马炮底兵对炮卒卒,黑卒逼近九宫,是黑胜局。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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7#
发表于 2014-11-29 22:37:10 | 只看该作者
这一局网上讨论过多次,我认为黑胜结论正确。
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-1 02:28:30 | 只看该作者
马炮底兵对炮卒卒,黑卒逼近九宫,是黑胜局。[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]60684150705040500502424106277767020848380838413168696757394931386959574727153808153637385956[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1]504027066757062557582544313844563888563740303949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]5848445240415233414238483747332547482544[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]6888675727153138888757583949384815364842878850401020404188783747493941317875474875354282365558595534823235325949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]684867573949575848453738455531371020505120305848495937362746383946545141554541315433394945493639[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]4131273548383949314108016768014168584140505135435152433152514050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6]41406858374749596768355468585958384858594043010343410343475754625040434140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7]38483543404243625040014140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8]6768355468585462[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9]414501413747414547484548384849486768[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]0232483839493747324267684241685841475859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11]483839493747024250516861474827487767614167574245[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]77780208413127354838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13]4838083841316865[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14]020141460131483839493747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]053548383949374735454748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16]05354232705040415051414035324849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17]365547571020080555365747595605454959454656514757515550512030465659495747495956663617384817366646364447574456574756754642756342626344473755523738443662665257664657564642302042222010222936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17] [DhtmlXQ_comment23]这样黑棋如何胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment23] [/DhtmlXQ]
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-1 17:40:15 | 只看该作者
[/quote] [DhtmlXQ] [DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver] [DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init] [DhtmlXQ_binit]0506999939999999706099109999999999999941409999999942993748779999[/DhtmlXQ_binit] [DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title] [DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result] [DhtmlXQ_movelist]606841507050405005024241062777670208483808384131686967573949313869595747271538081536373859565051365551415646[/DhtmlXQ_movelist] [DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1]504027066757062557582544313844563888563740303949[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_14_1] [DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2]5848445240415233414238483747332547482544[/DhtmlXQ_move_1_20_2] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3]6888675727153138888757583949384815364842878850401020404188783747493941317875474875354282365558595534823235325949[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_3] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4]684867573949575848453738455531371020505120305848495937362746383946545141554541315433394945493639[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_4] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5]4131273548383949314108016768014168584140505135435152433152514050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_5] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6]41406858374749596768355468585958384858594043010343410343475754625040434140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_6] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7]38483543404243625040014140301020[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_20_7] [DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8]6768355468585462[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_18_8] [DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9]414501413747414547484548384849486768[/DhtmlXQ_move_5_16_9] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10]0232483839493747324267684241685841475859[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_9_10] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11]483839493747024250516861474827487767614167574245[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_11] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12]77780208413127354838[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_12] [DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13]4838083841316865[/DhtmlXQ_move_12_10_13] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14]020141460131483839493747[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_7_14] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15]053548383949374735454748[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_5_15] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16]05354232705040415051414035324849[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_3_16] [DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14] [DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29] [DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13] [DhtmlXQ_comment17_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_70] [DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36] [DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25] [DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24] [DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18] [DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19] [DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12] [DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13] [DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type] [DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17]365547571020080555365747595605454959454656514757515550512030465659495747495956663617384817366646364447574456574756754642756342626344473755523738443662665257664657564642302042222010222936483848[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_23_17] [DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_18]553608024959025259495242495941513617384817364737361742021020020956545152203009191736373836483848545719113020115157545154203052513040545240305150302050402010525010005000[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_27_18][DhtmlXQ_comment27]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment27] [/DhtmlXQ]
12#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-1 18:52:31 | 只看该作者
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14#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-2 16:59:53 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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15#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-4 01:39:01 | 只看该作者
和棋还是黑胜? 谁能给个结论
16#
发表于 2014-12-4 12:50:28 | 只看该作者
沉默 发表于 2014-12-2 16:59

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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17#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-4 17:15:55 | 只看该作者
象棋法官 发表于 2014-12-4 12:50

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]
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18#
发表于 2014-12-4 23:39:56 | 只看该作者
沉默 发表于 2014-12-4 17:15

还是黑胜。
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_27]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment64]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment64]
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19#
发表于 2014-12-5 13:31:50 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]
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20#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-5 15:44:20 | 只看该作者
象棋法官 发表于 2014-12-5 13:31

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]陈松顺先生编著的的《江湖棋局搜秘》第19局,有一则常见于马路棋摊上的俗名为“将得好有瘾”的江湖散局,陈先生将流行的和局着法诠订成黑胜。今将原局红方九.0位红兵移至八.0位,成为本局图势,就可弈成和局,且原局精彩着法都可保留。本局与上局“马飞蝴蝶”图势有相似之处,但着法要深奥得多[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]诠正着法20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]?软和(书中原谱)[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]红方胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]新增变招20141108[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]黑胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_70]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_36]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]红 胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]黑胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]以下同主着法,可以弈和[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]演变下去对黑方不利[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_13]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]后面变化还很复杂[/DhtmlXQ_comment23_37]
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21#
发表于 2014-12-5 16:04:32 | 只看该作者
沉默 发表于 2014-12-5 15:44

对,接走将5平4还是黑胜。
22#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-5 16:22:04 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_title]010局将得好有隐红先和[/DhtmlXQ_title]
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这样可以和棋了吧
23#
发表于 2014-12-5 16:40:14 | 只看该作者
沉默 发表于 2014-12-5 16:22
这样可以和棋了吧

这个改局早就有了
25#
发表于 2014-12-5 20:53:58 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_event]将得好有隐系列[/DhtmlXQ_event]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]诠正:★星海★||诠正原因:着法纠错||原注释:||[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12]这样演变呢?[/DhtmlXQ_comment12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment30_19]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment30_19]
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26#
发表于 2014-12-5 21:06:59 | 只看该作者
靓妹 发表于 2014-12-5 20:53

这是我在黄志琦残局库里的走法,以前认为这样能和,其实还是黑胜。
27#
 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-6 16:32:40 | 只看该作者
象棋法官 发表于 2014-12-5 17:19
22楼这是凌云子的改局,结果正和,最早出现在智弈象棋网上。

结果正和? 发来看看
28#
发表于 2014-12-6 20:06:19 | 只看该作者
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30#
发表于 2014-12-7 08:33:49 | 只看该作者
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