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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-12-8 22:45
标题: 药鸩武大红先胜赵殿忠
这局棋我拿不准是否红胜，大家探讨一下

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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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[DhtmlXQ_type]摆谱中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
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作者: 迟暮寒士 时间: 2014-12-10 13:37
试了好几种着法，红方都无法取胜。

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-12-10 15:01
棋规怎样判？是红长杀对黑长捉吗？这样红长杀是否应判先变？

作者: 邢春波 时间: 2014-12-10 15:54
棋规怎样判？是红长杀对黑长捉吗？这样红长杀是否应判先变？[/quote] 红长杀对黑长捉，不变作和

作者: 橘中搜秘 时间: 2014-12-10 17:54
判和棋或者红胜都有理有据，判红变就没有依据了，除非是新棋迷那种歪理

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-12-10 17:55
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]红长杀、黑长捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红能胜吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-12-10 19:44

yjr123 发表于 2014-12-10 17:55

继续演变下去，该怎样判？

红一杀两闲对黑长捉是否可按红一杀一闲为允许着法，黑长捉为禁止着法。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]红长杀、黑长捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红能胜吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment27][DhtmlXQ_comment28]一捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment28][DhtmlXQ_comment29]一闲[/DhtmlXQ_comment29][DhtmlXQ_comment30]二捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment30][DhtmlXQ_comment31]二闲[/DhtmlXQ_comment31][DhtmlXQ_comment32]三捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment32][DhtmlXQ_comment33]一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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作者: 象棋法官 时间: 2014-12-10 19:50
一杀二闲或者二杀一闲都没有区别，只要不长打就是允许着法。

作者: yjr123 时间: 2014-12-11 10:19

zhaodi 发表于 2014-12-10 19:44
继续演变下去，该怎样判？

红一杀两闲对黑长捉是否可按红一杀一闲为允许着法，黑长捉为禁止着法。 ...

法无禁止即允许

作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-12-11 14:39
谢谢余兄及研讨棋友，红胜棋

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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]红长杀、黑长捉。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]红能胜吗？[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_59]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment27]一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment28]一捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment28]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment30]二捉[/DhtmlXQ_comment30]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment33]一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
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作者: sdj 时间: 2014-12-11 17:00
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作者: zhaodi 时间: 2014-12-11 18:01
再研究，还是不行，黑方有着法逼红走成长要杀。

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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]一闲[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_29]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]一杀[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]不得不变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_38]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_61]
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