拍案惊奇：是胜是和？

sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-13 07:02:27

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yjr123 · 发表于 2017-9-13 08:49:32

和棋
云库着法：
http://www.chessdb.cn/query/?3a2 ... /9/9/4A4/4KAB1c%20w

象棋天使 · 发表于 2017-9-13 09:30:18

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★星海★ · 发表于 2017-9-13 12:24:32

和局，很微妙。
去掉中士
加一边相
车后退一步
都成红胜

sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-13 17:50:25

谢谢各位老师！

复盘解拆令我惊出一身冷汗！为什么？
除了周软，象棋软件一概不会。人脑解拆胜和交替出现。
我的愚见：倾向于红胜。好像红方有调整的空间。对与不对？连我自己都不敢确保是否正确。
这就是我发帖的原因。敬请老师们不要见笑啊。

sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-13 18:06:49

我的解拆是这样的。我也不确定是否正确。敬请老师们评阅。谢谢！
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-13 18:11:41

1樓黑方來得及退將與炮, 可和

曾兄所說的三種局面黑就來不及了

加邊相當然是指右邊相

聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-13 18:58:53

sdndsx 发表于 2017-9-13 18:06
我的解拆是这样的。我也不确定是否正确。敬请老师们评阅。谢谢！

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-13 21:17:17

目前我研究是和局

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-13 21:40:27

修正, 比想像中深奧得多

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-13 21:59:45

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-9-13 22:05 编辑

弄了個大概

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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-13 22:27:56

感覺還頗複雜
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sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-14 05:34:06

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2017-9-14 05:40 编辑

聨吟客发表于 2017-9-13 18:58

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sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-14 07:08:12

各位老师：
学生我对象棋强软不会。我的电脑配置仍然是单核笔记本。
为了方便探讨，不妨对学生我的红胜着法（不一定就正确）为例，敬请指出不当之处（应该有）。联吟客老师在8楼的帖子我喜欢（但没有给出探讨阶段的结论）。
敬请老师们继续探讨，谢谢！

sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-14 07:25:59

本帖最后由 sdndsx 于 2017-9-14 07:49 编辑

问：这个局面是怎样形成的？
答：街棋实战。
问：能否再向前退出几步呢？
答：可以。
问：为什么没有贴出来？
答：街棋实战着法无法确保步步精准。
问：贴出来可以吗？
答：没有什么不可以的，但重点仍然是1楼局面的探讨。
问：贴出来看看行吗？
答：可以。但1楼才是探讨重点。
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[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment14]形成1楼局面。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]\u003F\u003F||实战感觉炮9平5比较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-14 11:40:30

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-9-14 11:43 编辑

sdndsx 发表于 2017-9-14 05:34

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[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局面是我的街棋实战。实战对弈我执红轻松取胜。||复盘解拆令我惊出一身冷汗！||各位老师：是胜是和？您怎么看？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]||\u003F\u003F\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]||這樣才對[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_25] 紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_25]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-17 12:12:10

這樣不知可否?看似很基本的實用殘局,卻變幻莫測令人如墜雲霧之中...............

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[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局面是我的街棋实战。实战对弈我执红轻松取胜。||复盘解拆令我惊出一身冷汗！||各位老师：是胜是和？您怎么看？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]還原和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_35]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]30413353503039493050694750304837304059484152[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22]可能應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_10]4152594930414333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_10]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_92]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_92]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment69]這樣還有變化\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_32_12]4050472550304959[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_32_12][DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]這樣不知可否\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_32]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-17 14:10:03

走成這樣是否能和?

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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_11_7]71708089[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_11_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]還原和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment9_92]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_92]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment11_69]這樣還有變化\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_69]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_12]42418480[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_12][DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]可能也可這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_17]5241844442524454524248584130545242415232[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_38_17][DhtmlXQ_comment48]和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment48][DhtmlXQ_comment11_80] 參考主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_80][DhtmlXQ_comment5]較好的攻法[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-17 14:16:19

不對, 這局越來越覺得有意思 ,

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[DhtmlXQ_author]山东时鑫[/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局面是我的街棋实战。实战对弈我执红轻松取胜。||复盘解拆令我惊出一身冷汗！||各位老师：是胜是和？您怎么看？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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聨吟客 · 发表于 2017-9-17 14:22:41

本帖最后由聨吟客于 2017-9-17 14:38 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]这个局面是我的街棋实战。实战对弈我执红轻松取胜。||复盘解拆令我惊出一身冷汗！||各位老师：是胜是和？您怎么看？[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_12]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_7_6]7073898273715150717050517072828372738382737282837273838273538252[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_7_6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_22]
[DhtmlXQ_move_3_11_7]71708089[/DhtmlXQ_move_3_11_7]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]還原和[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_12]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]304133535030394930506947503048393040494841525354404154744140747042417050[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_22_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_92]和[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_92]
[DhtmlXQ_comment69]這樣還有變化\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment69]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_27_8]493950303949305069875030537330507372505249394130727352507372505287653041[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_27_8]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_32_14]40505354504048584130545242415232[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_32_14]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_15]524148584130545242415232[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_16]3241544442324434324248384150343242413252[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_34_16]
[DhtmlXQ_move_18_38_12]42418480[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_38_12]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_18_38_17]5241844442524454524248584130545242415232[/DhtmlXQ_move_18_38_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]和\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_48]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_80] 參考主變[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_80]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5]較好的攻法[/DhtmlXQ_comment5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_18]748440418480413180303151483852413060415260635141[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_37_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_37] 應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_37]
[DhtmlXQ_move_9_38_19]40417040[/DhtmlXQ_move_9_38_19]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_39]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment74] 這樣\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment74]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_10]4152594930414333[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_56_10]
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[DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_20]304163434232433332420725504025474132[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_72_20][DhtmlXQ_comment22]可能應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
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sdndsx · 发表于 2017-9-17 17:35:20

聨吟客发表于 2017-9-17 14:22

谢谢您！联吟客老师！

您16楼的回帖是对的，红胜的结论我放弃了。
各位老师：还有没有红方必胜的着法？和棋的的着法能否做到精准呢？

东萍公司 · 发表于 2017-9-18 13:17:27

呵呵，先退车一将，后面就简单了吧，你这实战怎么想的？还是你发的实战谱次序不对？

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[DhtmlXQ_comment4]？[/DhtmlXQ_comment4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6]\u003F[/DhtmlXQ_comment6]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10]\u003F\u003F||实战感觉炮9平5比较好。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]黑方一将一杀。必须变着。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_20]
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