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[排局诠正] 象棋排局新編之雪中送炭

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1#
发表于 2017-11-13 18:49:59 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
原譜走法
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2#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-13 18:53:35 | 只看该作者
34回合紅應車平六可勝
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[DhtmlXQ_result]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_result]
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3#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-13 19:00:40 | 只看该作者
黑方修正走法仍可和局,是否如此呢[DhtmlXQ]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_79]
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4#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-13 19:25:13 | 只看该作者
龍駒鳳雛原譜走法
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5#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-13 19:33:44 | 只看该作者
12回合紅車是否應直接吃卒大優有勝望呢
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6#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-13 19:39:06 | 只看该作者
黑11回合應先平炮是否仍可和局
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7#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-13 19:41:53 | 只看该作者
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8#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-14 02:29:45 | 只看该作者
黑也可這樣大陸規則如何判? 紅有無犯規呢?
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9#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-14 02:41:06 | 只看该作者
兵可長捉子,但樓上情況並非走兵捉子,而是走帥 一用車捉卒一車兵聯合用兵換馬
呵呵呵,光文字敘述就很頭大@@,這種情況到底大陸規則怎麼判呢?

還望棋友們來釋疑
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-14 02:46:51 | 只看该作者
而红若變著又會如何
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[DhtmlXQ_comment43]而紅方變著又會如何[/DhtmlXQ_comment43]
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11#
发表于 2017-11-14 15:04:52 | 只看该作者
原谱走法第33回合不走车8平5兑车,走其它着也可和。
12#
 楼主| 发表于 2017-11-14 18:24:32 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 聨吟客 于 2017-11-14 18:29 编辑
chouzhouyu 发表于 2017-11-14 15:04
原谱走法第33回合不走车8平5兑车,走其它着也可和。

總之 原譜 有錯就是了


13#
发表于 2017-11-14 19:05:33 | 只看该作者
用兵换马感觉棋规应该判闲。可走。红方也不能强变,其它走法基本上都输棋。

14#
发表于 2017-11-14 19:26:13 | 只看该作者
龙驹凤雏
11. 车五退四  卒4平5
12. 车五进二  炮8平6
13. 车五平四  将4平5
红可接走14. 帅四进一

黑三子被拴,红胜。
15#
发表于 2017-11-14 19:46:11 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 chouzhouyu 于 2017-11-14 20:05 编辑

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]应先平炮[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]已和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]好象红可胜?[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]黑三子被拴,红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]原谱走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]这样机会好像多一些[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]感觉这次应走车五平七。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_25]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]黑优。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]原谱走法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment25_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment27_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment27_18]
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16#
发表于 2017-11-14 19:46:32 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_comment35] 捉卒[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]欲以兵換馬[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment38]黑如選擇不變||大陸規則如何判||紅方有無犯規呢[/DhtmlXQ_comment38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment39]而紅方變著又會如何||||红输。[/DhtmlXQ_comment39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]也输。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]准备兑车。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_46]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_38]應這樣仍可和[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_82]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_78]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_62]??[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_62]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_63]應這樣[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_63]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_75]紅勝[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_75]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]原谱和法。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_64]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_76]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_76]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]拴住马就红胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_27]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]可还原到主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]同主变。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]拴住马就红胜了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_39]
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17#
发表于 2022-11-9 02:10:13 | 只看该作者
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=26826
这个贴子,
第16着炮8退1变的着法是正确地。
为什么书出版后的着法不对?

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18#
发表于 2022-11-9 02:42:43 | 只看该作者
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... id=26016&extra=
终于找到第8回合黑炮8退1变后续着法产生失误的原因了,
就是上面的贴子,4楼拟着正确,而39楼却随手了。
直接导致《象棋精巧实用杀法》与《象棋排局精编》二书主变着法有错误。
19#
发表于 2022-11-9 02:44:07 | 只看该作者
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[DhtmlXQ_result]4楼[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_open]A00 非常见开局[/DhtmlXQ_open]
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20#
发表于 2022-11-9 02:47:51 | 只看该作者
上面是原4楼
下面是原39楼


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[DhtmlXQ_comment0]“古婺”的《小龙驹》---,凌云子再修订。[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_comment37]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment37]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_54]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment8_42]
[DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment9_49]
[DhtmlXQ_comment10_30]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment10_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment11_29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment12_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13_34]黑胜定。[/DhtmlXQ_comment13_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment14_38]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment15_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16_32]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17_33]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment18_28]
[DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment19_41]
[DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment20_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment21_31]
[DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22_18]
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21#
发表于 2022-11-9 14:04:19 | 只看该作者
当年提供稿供如下,炮8退1变无误。
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum ... &extra=page%3D1


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写稿时,直接采用《象棋精巧实用杀法》的此局旧谱。

经历一天一夜翻看无数旧贴,终于破案。
22#
发表于 2022-11-10 13:06:33 | 只看该作者
凌云子 发表于 2022-11-9 14:04
当年提供稿供如下,炮8退1变无误。
http://www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=35508&extr ...

这个局是《象棋精巧实用杀法》第几局
23#
发表于 2022-11-10 13:15:53 | 只看该作者
第4章第19局小龙驹(二)。
即第141页
24#
发表于 2022-11-10 13:43:17 | 只看该作者
凌云子 发表于 2022-11-10 13:15
第4章第19局小龙驹(二)。
即第141页

和赵殿忠的书名搞混了,《象棋精巧实用杀法》没有加入搜索。

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        街头棋摊揭秘_王首成 第15章第2局 烈焰龙驹
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