小双车变改局 这棋能走和吗

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[DhtmlXQ_comment22]这步厉害。这步棋我没想到。[/DhtmlXQ_comment22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment35]黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment35]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]黑应该也可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]这样还原。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_30]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_39]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_17]据说只有这样才可守和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_17]
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一个朋友的变改局。加了一个兵卒。他有步象7进9的变招。红很难应付。感觉黑可胜了。

chouzhouyu

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[DhtmlXQ_comment16]这步将可能不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment17]这样行不？走帅上或下都没用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑车先到这儿。这样黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]现在将可能没用了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]这步将可能不能少。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_16]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]这样行不？走帅上或下都没用。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_17]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_40]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑车先到这儿。这样黑可胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]现在将可能没用了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_43]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]现在将军也不晚[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
[DhtmlXQ_comment24]黑要变招只能这样。这种变化是最初折解时的应招。双方对冲兵卒是红方快一点。如走车退可双方不变作和。||||后来才拆到黑方车退后再飞象。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]现在将可能没用了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红方走成这种阵型的话有和棋希望。黑方不敢过分用强。对冲兵卒红方还快一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]经多次拆解后我认为是必需的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]
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chouzhouyu 发表于 2019-12-23 09:59

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[DhtmlXQ_comment20]现在将军也不晚[/DhtmlXQ_comment20]
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[DhtmlXQ_comment5_33]红胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_33]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_26]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]现在将可能没用了。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_22]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]红方走成这种阵型的话有和棋希望。黑方不敢过分用强。对冲兵卒红方还快一点。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_23]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_43]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_34]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]经多次拆解后我认为是必需的。[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_16]
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chouzhouyu

对。这么明显也看不到。

老鸽子

棋型有点象：桃红柳绿(心谱/百谱/蕉谱)、击楫中流(江湖棋秘/陈维垣藏本)、兵定孤竹(江湖百局秘谱)，极近似：腊梅(百花盛开象棋谱)，但着法大不相同。 “小双车”原局可以断定就是改自：腊梅(百花盛开象棋谱)，只是黑方去掉了右边象，三/四位马，红方去掉了七/六位兵，其余图势完全相同。“腊梅”出自1960年代《三友象棋谱》第14局，原无局名，陈维垣拟局。而陈维垣的这局又是改自：底炮檀溪（湖涯集）=马跳潭溪(蕉竹斋)=牧守羝羊(江湖特种排局)。