设为首页收藏本站

华工象棋论坛

 找回密码
 注册

QQ登录

只需一步,快速开始

搜索
查看: 2551|回复: 8
打印 上一主题 下一主题

[排局杂谈] 首见“大将当关”有实际性的改局

[复制链接]
跳转到指定楼层
1#
发表于 2023-12-8 21:18:05 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-8 21:30 编辑

[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999646320999906222199998299419902869999992948786743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-12 18:19:11[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-12 18:19:11[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]裘望禹 蒋权 朱鹤洲《排局漫谈》第六期(1983年) 棋局测验[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]81[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_other][/DhtmlXQ_other]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]355[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7302720[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]老鸽子[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]老鸽子[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]21314140644467574448293963687868486840502030866730395758594958683141685839296748293948273937270622210625373825332131434438184445181033413141826410406442404245354282353682893637895958594948[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1]41316434314163668665343343443343413122213132436382606362604262654264653532426646[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_2_1][DhtmlXQ_comment1_21]红胜[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_21][DhtmlXQ_comment47]和局[/DhtmlXQ_comment47][DhtmlXQ_comment2]不考虑加边兵边象,古谱原图即如现在图势,移兵移将只是多了一个变着,不甚必要。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2][DhtmlXQ_comment24]原注:黑马不吃边兵一路变化,亦属正和,不再赘述,读者自研。[/DhtmlXQ_comment24]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_2]02204838786838396858594957473933[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_8_2][DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_15]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_3]02202232826468648667646757675958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_10_3][DhtmlXQ_comment3_17]红胜定[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_17][DhtmlXQ_comment0]百变、神妙-大将当关,古谱共有九谱收录,但局名不同,其它七谱及局名如下:||||棋谱秘录-和一局||韬谱-雷声普化||心谱-辕门射戟||竹谱、湖谱-辕门树帜||渊谱-反风灭火||蕉竹蕉-当头棒喝||||古谱中至今未见改图!现代谱也仅见《江湖棋局搜秘》“移车移卒的辕门树帜”局图势略改——无正式刊载者除外||||不禁想问:是数百年来无人能动此局吗?[/DhtmlXQ_comment0]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.dpxq.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.dpxq.com/hldcg/search/index.asp[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator][/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
分享到:  QQ好友和群QQ好友和群 QQ空间QQ空间 腾讯微博腾讯微博 腾讯朋友腾讯朋友
收藏收藏 分享分享
2#
 楼主| 发表于 2023-12-8 21:28:14 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 老鸽子 于 2023-12-9 07:54 编辑

除上述注解所说九谱之局,《梦入神机》之“过不留迹”局的杀法亦同(指红车平至中卒前),但布子大不相同,且三个回合即速胜,大体相当于与“大将当关”开局着法相似。

“大将当关“局现代谱收录也很多,系讫今为止,在古今棋谱中转载或诠释最多的古局。

3#
发表于 2023-12-8 22:58:34 | 只看该作者
本帖最后由 石川铃华老湿 于 2023-12-8 23:14 编辑
老鸽子 发表于 2023-12-8 21:28
除上述注解所说九谱之局,《梦入神机》之“过不留迹”局的杀法亦同(指红车平至中卒前),但布子大不相同, ...
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999646320999922992199999999419982869999992948786743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-12 18:19:11[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-12 18:19:11[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]老鸽子请验收[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]81[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]355[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7302720[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]老鸽子[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]老鸽子[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D57511%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator][/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
4#
发表于 2023-12-8 23:08:21 | 只看该作者
老鸽子,下次记得要贴出古谱。
大湿很懒,要去大湿去找古谱来查验,大湿只能作罢~~~~
5#
发表于 2023-12-8 23:13:24 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999646320999922993199998299409999869999992948786743[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2013-12-12 18:19:11[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2013-12-12 18:19:11[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]裘望禹 蒋权 朱鹤洲《排局漫谈》第六期(1983年) 棋局测验[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]81[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_date]2000-10-10[/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]355[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]7302720[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner]老鸽子[/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner]老鸽子[/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.hgchess.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.hgchess.com/bbs/forum.php%3Fmod%3Dviewthread%26tid%3D57511%26extra%3Dpage%253D1[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator][/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
6#
发表于 2023-12-8 23:36:47 | 只看该作者
此局本来就很好,正和,老鸽子,你想要改什么?添一大堆棋子?
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2023-12-9 07:45:41 | 只看该作者
石川铃华老湿 发表于 2023-12-8 23:36
此局本来就很好,正和,老鸽子,你想要改什么?添一大堆棋子?

除了《适情雅趣》和《梦入神机》中之局,绝大多数古局都有同型局或改局,本局就是少见的没有同型局或改局的古局之一。而且,本局名气高,流行广,残局爱好者几乎人人皆知,无人改此局当然有些不寻常!
8#
发表于 2024-9-2 21:12:37 | 只看该作者
老鸽子 发表于 2023-12-9 07:45
除了《适情雅趣》和《梦入神机》中之局,绝大多数古局都有同型局或改局,本局就是少见的没有同型局或改局 ...

随便改一个
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_title]无标题[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_date][/DhtmlXQ_date]
[DhtmlXQ_place][/DhtmlXQ_place]
[DhtmlXQ_round][/DhtmlXQ_round]
[DhtmlXQ_table][/DhtmlXQ_table]
[DhtmlXQ_red][/DhtmlXQ_red]
[DhtmlXQ_redteam][/DhtmlXQ_redteam]
[DhtmlXQ_redrating][/DhtmlXQ_redrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_black][/DhtmlXQ_black]
[DhtmlXQ_blackteam][/DhtmlXQ_blackteam]
[DhtmlXQ_blackrating][/DhtmlXQ_blackrating]
[DhtmlXQ_blacktime][/DhtmlXQ_time]
[DhtmlXQ_result]未知[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]6499299959999999992063212266999999879999419999889999993843486778[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist][/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_type]实战全局/开局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_timerule][/DhtmlXQ_timerule]
[DhtmlXQ_endtype][/DhtmlXQ_endtype]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_gametype][/DhtmlXQ_gametype]
[DhtmlXQ_generator]www.ccbridge.net[/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
9#
发表于 2024-9-3 11:21:29 | 只看该作者
[DhtmlXQ]
[DhtmlXQ_ver]www_dpxq_com[/DhtmlXQ_ver]
[DhtmlXQ_init]500,350[/DhtmlXQ_init]
[DhtmlXQ_binit]9999999959999999476320999999312299868299409999999999992943485778[/DhtmlXQ_binit]
[DhtmlXQ_pver]130606[/DhtmlXQ_pver]
[DhtmlXQ_adddate]2020-07-23 11:14:32[/DhtmlXQ_adddate]
[DhtmlXQ_editdate]2020-07-23 11:14:32[/DhtmlXQ_editdate]
[DhtmlXQ_title]辕门树帜[/DhtmlXQ_title]
[DhtmlXQ_movelist]47482939636878684868405020308667303957585949586831416858392958484939674622324665292765533231434427205341314144452040[/DhtmlXQ_movelist]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_1]3909584849396746090848383949462708283828[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_15_1]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2]223268583929584849396755314155362927361527281534282034462028463432313422280843440800224131418264004064424042485839384445421245461218[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_13_2]
[DhtmlXQ_move_2_19_3]32425536292736152728152342412331413143443141444528208264204064424042453542323536323036374131372731412728[/DhtmlXQ_move_2_19_3]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_4]8667686757675958[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_6_4]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_5]4757866757672939[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_5]
[DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_6]47434050435350405357484959587868[/DhtmlXQ_move_0_1_6]
[DhtmlXQ_move_6_3_7]43482939636986676968786848685758[/DhtmlXQ_move_6_3_7]
[DhtmlXQ_firstnum]0[/DhtmlXQ_firstnum]
[DhtmlXQ_length]122[/DhtmlXQ_length]
[DhtmlXQ_type]中残局[/DhtmlXQ_type]
[DhtmlXQ_class][/DhtmlXQ_class]
[DhtmlXQ_event][/DhtmlXQ_event]
[DhtmlXQ_result]和棋[/DhtmlXQ_result]
[DhtmlXQ_remark][/DhtmlXQ_remark]
[DhtmlXQ_author][/DhtmlXQ_author]
[DhtmlXQ_hits]231[/DhtmlXQ_hits]
[DhtmlXQ_sortid]16163500[/DhtmlXQ_sortid]
[DhtmlXQ_owner][/DhtmlXQ_owner]
[DhtmlXQ_oldowner][/DhtmlXQ_oldowner]
[DhtmlXQ_comment13]有人提出红改走兵七平六,可以演成双兵逼杀,红胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment13]
[DhtmlXQ_comment15]平炮七路,是谋和的佳着.[/DhtmlXQ_comment15]
[DhtmlXQ_comment29]和.[/DhtmlXQ_comment29]
[DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]黑方抢先成杀.[/DhtmlXQ_comment1_24]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]红方不走平兵占花心,是想利用机会运送后兵去堵寒黑马由左翼返防救援,演成双兵逼杀局面.这步退马是想从历翼返防救援,是唯一的解着.以下红方只有前兵平五可和.若走后兵平五,则为黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_18]
[DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]和。[/DhtmlXQ_comment2_45]
[DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment3_44]
[DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]黑方攻势瓦解,红胜定.[/DhtmlXQ_comment4_9]
[DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment5_4]
[DhtmlXQ_comment6_8]黑胜.[/DhtmlXQ_comment6_8]
[DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]黑胜。[/DhtmlXQ_comment7_10]
[DhtmlXQ_refer]http%3A//www.dpxq.com/%0D%0Ahttp%3A//www.dpxq.com/hldcg/search/index.asp[/DhtmlXQ_refer]
[DhtmlXQ_generator][/DhtmlXQ_generator]
[/DhtmlXQ]
您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 注册

本版积分规则

小黑屋|粤公网安备 44040302000128号|华工象棋网 ( 粤ICP 备4404034007231   我要啦免费统计

GMT+8, 2024-11-24 13:53

Powered by Discuz! X3.2

© 2001-2013 Comsenz Inc.

快速回复 返回顶部 返回列表