世事浮沉

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1楼局面诠正的地方较多，原构思59回合不成立。
如何诠改呢？
1  最讨巧的办法（去掉前两个回合），维持50回合：

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2  去掉三七位红兵，46回合：
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3  移动红马，增加黑卒，50回合：
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以上修改局做到了连将胜成立（最多50回合），但是红方的冗子没有消除。
如果保持不少于50回合的条件下，有三个问题：
1  能否消除掉红方冗子？
2  能否拟出新的套路？
3  能否拟出超过100回合的连将胜局？

sdndsx

1  能否消除掉红方冗子？
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2  能否拟出新的套路？注意：67位黑卒移到68位。
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3  能否拟出超过100回合的连将胜局？新套路（68位黑卒），红方有半冗子。

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湖艓

sdndsx 发表于 2024-10-21 15:52
3  能否拟出超过100回合的连将胜局？新套路（68位黑卒），红方有半冗子。

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sdndsx

湖艓 发表于 2024-10-21 23:22

谢谢 湖艓 老师！
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湖艓 发表于 2024-10-21 23:22

看错了。

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湖艓 发表于 2024-10-22 09:40
看错了。

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